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this hole radiates for the masses as my

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anniversary in July 1947 the Army Air

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Force proposed an ops are applying this

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possession of the army the game is

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differences worldwide would vanish if we

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fade to black with your host in church

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on the game-changer Radio Network and

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you helped into the year 1985

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your nickname chief thank you guys with

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kids Spain to block the smoke radio for

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the masses that's right today's Tuesday

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May 2nd 121 days into the new year just

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bunker somewhere in downtown Burbank

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California and I would like to welcome

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everybody listening all around the world

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all across the United States hither and

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thither to and fro back and forth up and

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and near this is fade to black for KJ CR

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the game changer that worked in Kate GRA

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the planet I'm your host Amy Church

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what is cracking everybody let's go

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continuing our amazing women week here

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new film it is called gods among us I've

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watched it twice it is absolutely

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film that we will save for a few minutes

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and we are going to talk biohacking

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that is tomorrow night been waiting for

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that show haven't you it did much last

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night oh man oh man oh man but tomorrow

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night Tricia he's been biohacking

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Thursday night is another fader oh wait

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late Thursday night we are yeah okay

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Thursday night is another fader night

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schedule correct here and he will be

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here with us no more fake newsroom live

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like Colin number is 3 to 3 8 2 5 5 0 4

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to do that drawing this Thursday so get

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we really stretch this out to get your

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name in the Hat okay all right we're

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going to do the drawing Thursday night

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live on the show just like we did last

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month and very cool because Kel barn and

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that he won last month in the drawing

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it was so cool to see it right man there

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in the picture too as well wouldn't you

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May 6th from 11 to 5 p.m. we will be at

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the temple of light and that is at 11

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light all right so we will get that up

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here in Twitter in just a second I'll

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down meet Margo get her new books she'll

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sign it for you and hang out with us now

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you need to you know when you come up

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with an ultra secret special fate or not

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word you do that you might get the

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come and hang out with us to Saturday

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there two weeks from Thursday two weeks

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two weeks contact in the desert may 19th

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through the 22nd in Joshua Tree

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year do include George Noory Graham

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Robert Schoch David Wilcock Corey Goode

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special events and all of our friends

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are going to be there ok so go and get

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your tickets and then for now get your

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plans going and come and hang out with

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speaking twice that weekend but more

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importantly is we will be out under the

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stars with the night vision looking and

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single night

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bucket list moment is about to go down

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July 4th weekend at the East Eddy ranch

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so we'll have tickets and info and

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everything that you need you can go to

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the information is there but we'll have

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next couple of days with that let's get

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this show crackin because today we want

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Rock Dwayne Johnson yeah

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today Dwayne is 45 years old love is his

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new series ballers actually he's pretty

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will always make the list because he's

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one of the coolest dudes ever in the

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history of everything also today the one

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and only nurse Nancy is 29 so everybody

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in Twitter right now say happy birthday

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to nurse Nancy 29 years old and you can

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come and hang out with her contact in

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yourself in person our dead guys

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wray 1929 to 2005 died at the age of 76

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his 1958 instrumental hit Rumble by link

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ray and his Raymond nearly invented the

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power cord seriously

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the major modus operandi for all modern

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rock guitars around the world how

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powerful was that song Rumble how

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powerful well

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Rumble was banned and in New York and

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Boston for fear it would incite teenage

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violence and how cool is that go and

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watch any rumble video with link ray now

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of course Pulp Fiction comes into play

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right all right

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link ray happy birthday Rolling Stone

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placed link at number 45 of the 100

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greatest guitarists of all time link ray

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one badass dude

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on this day in history oh TD 1933 it

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happened the Loch Ness monster was cited

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the newspaper Inverness the Inverness

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courier printed an account of a local

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couple who claimed to have seen and I'm

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quoting here an enormous animal rolling

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and plunging on the surface well the

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rest they say is history

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there you go

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19:33 can you believe it the famous

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photograph was in 1934 the first

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sighting 1933 fader fact some things you

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have to bet you have to confirm but this

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is a fader fact you can repeat this

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tomorrow let's see note note to self

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spray Jimmy with rose water Rita Rita

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Rita Rita Rita ok fader fact clams can

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live for more than 400 years and that is

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a fader fact all right tonight

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continuing our amazing week amazing

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women week here in Veda black our guest

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is Caroline Corey we're going to talk

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about her new film gods among us and

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I've just got to say the film when

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something like this comes out because

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I've seen them all something like this

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comes out I'm hoping for discovery for

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knowledge something that I have I just

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don't know and this film has it in

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spades it was one thing after another it

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is an amazing documentary one that I I

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will highly not only highly recommend

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but when then she will watch over and

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over again I've watched it twice in the

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last three days so there you go tonight

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we're going to talk about gods among us

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tomorrow night Trisha Eastman is here

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we're going to talk about biohacking

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Thursday night's another Fator night

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with Jon Rappoport

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all right Barrett Brown has been

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released and I think that with the

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uproar of things that were going on

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around the country and I'm hoping that

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this show had something to do with it

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too as well that it had something to do

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with that because I don't think this is

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going to go away I do think that the the

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Bureau of Prisons the Bo P the Fed side

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of things is going to feel the pressure

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of what they did to bare Brown you don't

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mess with Barrett Brown okay that says

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you want to be on Barrett's good side

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but today I read his D Magazine article

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about what happened and I decided to

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read it

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and and it's written in the first person

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so this is Barrett Browns account of

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what happened here we go

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the lead of Tamiya re-arrest by US

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Marshal Service and the subsequent legal

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four day detention detention that not

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only ended after one of the nation's

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most prestigious law firms threatened to

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go to a judge began a week prior on

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Thursday April 20th I walked into the

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Volunteers of America halfway house in

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Hutchins Texas for my bi-weekly case

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manager meeting with Victoria Deane a

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VOA staffer in the course of our

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conversation I noted that I was doing an

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interview with Vice the next day and

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that PBS will be coming a week later

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Dean asked me if I had checked with the

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Bureau of Prisons on that a reply that I

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had not as I was not required to do so

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as I explained to her then the Bureau of

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Prisons program statement I news media

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contacts is the relevant policy document

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it does not give up the the Bo P the

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right to interfere with an inmate's

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access to the press Dean said the Bo P

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requires halfway house staffers to

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notify them when a resident is about to

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speak to the press I told her that was

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fine and left

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later that afternoon Dean called me at

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home and said that she had spoken to the

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Bo P representative lose

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Lou Jean who had said that I was

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required to fill out some forms before

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any interview and that media

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representatives would have to do

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likewise I told her I would do so as

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soon as the program statement granting

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the Bo P the right of prior review was

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provided to me the next morning the crew

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from vice met me at D magazine and we

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began shooting for an episode of

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cyberwar to be aired next September on

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camera I called both Dean and Lou Jean

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you gotta love berry leaving messages to

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the effect that I still hadn't heard

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from them on this imaginary program

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statement and wondering aloud if Lou

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Jean might not perhaps be thinking of an

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entirely different form why

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which a news media representative is

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required to submit to a prison in order

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to gain access to an inmate on prison

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grounds those clips have now been made

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public by Vice

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like I said Barrett doesn't play I

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didn't hear back from either Dean or Lou

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Jean Oh on this over the following days

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the next Wednesday when I was summoned

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to the VOA for a random drug test

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I saw the director Merrill Wells he

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asked me if I had gotten the forms taken

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care of and I told him I needed to speak

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with him about that he said that he had

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a meeting right then I said that perhaps

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it would be best if the matter were

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discussed in some more formal manner

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anyway he replied that he would in fact

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be available to speak right then I

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briefly explained that the VP's request

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facilitated by Dean was illegal and

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contrary to both blp policy has put

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forth in the program statement as well

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as all current readings of the

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Constitution as applied even to inmate

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and reminded him that I had been doing

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interviews without any approval

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whatsoever for four years both from

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prison and from his halfway house and

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that his staff had been well aware of

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these things he said that he had not

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been aware of this and that they were

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merely required to report any press

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interviews and that this was laid out in

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their operating guidelines after

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urinating in a cup for the glory of the

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state I walked back to dean's office to

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see if these forms she had been given

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Dean was in wells office across the hall

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and the two were speaking with some

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degree of agitation though I couldn't

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make out what they were saying other

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than my name which I consider the most

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wondrous of sounds to which I have

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trained my ears when the two came out

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they were surprised to see me I reminded

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Dean that she'd told me to pick up these

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forms we all went into her office and I

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again explained why their position was

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criminal and immoral and whatnot but I

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took the forms with me that afternoon

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I received a phone call from Dean and

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wells which I recorded now he's provided

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links of to the recording and and can be

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her and Dean tells me failure to fill

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out one of the two forms and to require

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media representatives to fill out and

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submit the other before interviewing me

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would be regarded as a refusal that's in

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quotes here she refers to refusing an

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order infraction I reply and at length

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and unwillingness of the tongue that if

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the state and his servants believe that

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a refusal to comply with

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unconstitutional and imaginary rules

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that the state itself refuses to

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identify constitutes a refusal then by

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golly what a wonderful world we have

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created for ourselves then I am formed

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that I have been recording this

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conversation and and he's putting

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missing quotes we'll be submitting it I

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hadn't actually decided what one does

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with the recording of the sort and this

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is his in parentheses and then it might

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is that it is my right to do so which it

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is laws on recording vary from state to

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state but in Texas one doesn't have to

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inform the other party which I do you

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know inform just for fun interesting I

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didn't know that about Texas you can

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record anybody's phone call and not tell

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them ahead of time interesting and with

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Barrett Brown that's a good thing

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afterward I went on a Houston Dallas

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radio show hosted by Kenny Webster who

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was filling in for some other fellow and

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whose other program Pursuit of Happyness

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I appear on about once a week I

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explained the situation up to this point

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and we attempted to get Luz Lujan on the

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phone but only got her as far as her

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voicemail which we promptly mocked

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shortly after that I received another

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phone call from Dean who said Lujan

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wanted to do a conference call that call

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is here another link and was relatively

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short since Lou Jean hung up after I

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told her then I would not speak to her

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any b.a.p official

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recording the phone call on my end and

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that at any rate we had nothing to

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discuss and I merely wanted her agency

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to cite the rule that I was being

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threatened into following and that is

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key here also I wanted to play video

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games which I subsequently did after

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first having the two recordings sent to

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the courage Foundation and the free

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Barrett Brown organizations to be

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uploaded the next morning I received a

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call from the halfway house telling me

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to report there immediately I actually

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had to go anyway for my to my twice

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weekly regular check-in but clearly this

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was something out of the ordinary when I

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arrived the half-way staffer widly

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Hosler asked me if I was recording and I

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said no Wells arrived and told me that

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he didn't know what was going on but the

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Bo P had said that I should be called in

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and told to wait I made a series of

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calls to journalists I know as well as

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to the Dallas City Councilman Philip

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Kingston who started looking for a

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lawyer at around 10 a.m. two US Marshals

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arrived and took me into custody I was

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taken to a federal building and shortly

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after was transferred to the Seagoville

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Federal Correctional Institution which

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has to jail units for those awaiting

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trial sentencing or further transfer and

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where I spent the bulk of 2014 writing

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columns for D magazine now he goes on to

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say that he got caught up on prisons and

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gossip and he's going to write about

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this later and then he continues at no

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point during my incarceration was I

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provided with any written explanation as

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to why I had been arrested one staffer

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was able to tell me that the marshals

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have been told by the BLP that I had

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refused an order but no such a faction

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report materialized wherein n and nearly

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all circumstances such a report must be

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filed and provided to an inmate within

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24 hours of an incident meanwhile David

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Siegel of Haynes and Boone who D

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magazine publisher Rick Allison had

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retained for my use had initiated

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indications with other bee officials

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with a firmer understanding that lujon

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of what they've gotten themselves into

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and made clear that the matter would be

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brought up before a judge if I were not

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released immediately thus it was that

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Monday morning the counselor at Siegel

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Bill's Jay to jail summoned me to his

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office and told me you one get your

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stuff ready you are leaving

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that was yesterday so there you go now

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the the article continues on and I'll

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provide the links for it here

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in in Twitter during the break but what

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is interesting for me is that had bear

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it not been Barrett Brown two things

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there's two things had married not been

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Barrett Brown you wouldn't been arrested

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in the first place that's the first

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thing but because he was Barrett Brown

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he was also released because he had a

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strong attorney behind him and he had

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the power of the press and he had the

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power of the media that was out there

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talking about this isn't that

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interesting right and there's a third

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thing Merritt is a journalist and he's

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also somewhat of a celebrity Vice

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magazine PBS this show other programs

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and the radio shows want to talk to

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Barrett that's how he makes his living

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and how can you stop somebody from

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making a living for four years he had

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done numerous interviews the last four

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year and nobody said anything this time

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they did and I'm going to say this one

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more time this is a journalist obviously

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somebody that can write and that is

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respected and read by millions and he

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was persecuted and brought down because

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of his dance with anonymous and it's

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that simple

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this is fade to black I'm your host

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Jimmy Church coming up right after the

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break Caroline Cory we are going to talk

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about her new film gods among us and it

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is amazing you can follow Caroline her

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links are right up there in Twitter

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right now at omnium you

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continuing our amazing women week here

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on fade to black our guest tonight is

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Caroline Corey we're going to talk about

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her new film gods among us tomorrow

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night Trisha Eastman is going to be here

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we're going to talk about biohacking and

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then Thursday night is another fader

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night with Jon Rappoport and a summer

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fake newsroom and your phone calls it is

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another fader night tonight it's

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Caroline Corey we welcome her back she

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is a filmmaker futurist international

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speaker and the visionary author of

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best-selling books on consciousness and

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quantum healing as a child and

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throughout her life Corey has had

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numerous otherworldly encounters which

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led her to become deeply connected in

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his spirituality the study of

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consciousness and the mechanics of the

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universe

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previously Corey served as creative

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director and producer of global live and

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televised events at one of the largest

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broadcast media entities in the world

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despite possessing extraordinary

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extrasensory abilities she kept her

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unique gifts to herself

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however years spent creating an

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overseeing traditional entertainment

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content ultimately compelled her to

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leave her executive position in favor of

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a more spiritually fulfilling career

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that combined her artistic background

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and passions with quantum healing and

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elevated consciousness in 2010 she

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founded omnium media and expects an

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experiential immersive concept for

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planetariums that heightens viewers

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sensory perceptions producing profound

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transformative experiences she has also

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written directed and produced short and

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feature animated films and completed

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several feature and TV pilot screenplays

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her latest project is gods among us and

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it studies the science of contact and

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otherworldly realities in addition to

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writing and producing she has appeared

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as a guest expert at major conferences

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and on television shows about

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supernatural phenomena including History

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Channel's popular series ancient aliens

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and I will

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like to welcome back to fade to black

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the one and only Caroline Cory Caroline

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he got me all tongue-tied there you

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decided that bad got me all tongue-tied

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welcome back to this for you yes yes yes

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you know it happens it does it happens

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but a welcome back to the show you've

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been busy and the last couple of times

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that we've talked either here on or on

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coast to coast who as well we talked

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about this this film that you were

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working on and you were getting close

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well now it's here it's done and I'm

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going to start with this I let everybody

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know that I've watched it twice in the

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last three days and I've got to say I

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was profoundly moved there were I don't

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know probably a half a dozen moments in

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the film where I had to sit back and go

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you know holy crap and and that doesn't

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happen with me often and and Rita had

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the same reactions too as well so you've

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got something going here

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I kind of want to back up just a couple

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of steps and and ask you this throughout

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all of your other films which which are

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great we've talked about those did did

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you know that you were about to do

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something as as as big as this because

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there are moments in this film of

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greatness did you know did you feel it I

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mean did you have any idea well I I knew

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I was onto something really amazing

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because I mean I could just sense that

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this was extremely important information

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but the approach is what made it so

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different so I knew I was onto something

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that was going to be very new very

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different very powerful but what happens

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in a documentary for those who

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understand the process it's not like a

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scripted film so you have a storyline

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you have an idea about the topics you

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want to

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right but what happens as you begin to

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find the people you want to interview

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and you start to speak to different

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people and go to different places the

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stories start to change and they start

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to kind of unravel and open new ideas

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for you so you have to constantly keep

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updating your story you know what I mean

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and there's that part of it and also a

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lot of documentaries have been made

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about you know not only alien contact

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but ufology in general there's no

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shortage of that out there and when you

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start to watch everything which I do

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things get a little bit repetitive and

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you kind of know what to expect and and

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what to see I did that's this film

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didn't do that this film Ford me at one

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turn after another and I have to just

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ask you were you at some point learning

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yourself well certain things actually

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did come up because they were alive we

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actually did some experiments that

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weren't planned at all in fact we didn't

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know what the results were going to be I

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had an idea of course but just to kind

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of give an idea for an overall idea

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about why this film is different is

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because compared with all the other

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films on your follow G and et contact

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and things like that the perspective or

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the approach which is scientific

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validation of the these phenomena that's

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what makes this film very different so

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that's the first thing that was very

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exciting you know V we're going to get

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to some of the cast of characters

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throughout our conversation tonight but

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you certainly have assembled some

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familiar faces that but there there's

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also the unfamiliar faces here which for

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me we're going to discuss a few of them

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here don't name names yet don't don't go

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there let's do that in just a bit

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then how how on earth did you make

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contact with with some of these

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individuals I mean they are just

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extraordinary we'll discuss him in a bit

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but how did you make did they find you

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or did you find them well you know it's

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a combination of the two I wanted

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because the approach was very different

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it was a scientific perspective and it

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was also the experiencer perspective so

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none of the you know government

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cover-ups or the secrecy or none of that

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so right off the bat I was looking for

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00:39:16,220 --> 00:39:12,630
scientists who were into this type of

820
00:39:18,590 --> 00:39:16,230
information who but not just the you

821
00:39:20,810 --> 00:39:18,600
know studied it from the outside if you

822
00:39:24,770 --> 00:39:20,820
but who really believed in it if you

823
00:39:27,650 --> 00:39:24,780
will and I looked for physicists and

824
00:39:30,350 --> 00:39:27,660
scientists who also had a particular

825
00:39:32,690 --> 00:39:30,360
specialty because I understood the

826
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:32,700
importance of that specialty for example

827
00:39:40,340 --> 00:39:35,850
one of the lead scientists is a black

828
00:39:42,650 --> 00:39:40,350
hole specialist and so I wanted him in

829
00:39:45,260 --> 00:39:42,660
the film like right off the bat I and I

830
00:39:47,300 --> 00:39:45,270
couldn't find him forever we couldn't

831
00:39:49,820 --> 00:39:47,310
contact him because he was sick or

832
00:39:52,010 --> 00:39:49,830
something for a while but I had to have

833
00:39:57,050 --> 00:39:52,020
it eventually he you know we found and

834
00:40:00,080 --> 00:39:57,060
he was amazing as you know the again you

835
00:40:03,500 --> 00:40:00,090
know the familiar face is part of it you

836
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:03,510
need that because their research is

837
00:40:12,350 --> 00:40:06,810
there and it's established but when I

838
00:40:16,970 --> 00:40:12,360
see somebody that I've never spoken to

839
00:40:20,930 --> 00:40:16,980
before and and and say the things that

840
00:40:23,210 --> 00:40:20,940
they will get to that in a bit but for

841
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:23,220
me and I told you this earlier and I'll

842
00:40:28,940 --> 00:40:26,130
say it right now on the air in a way I

843
00:40:30,890 --> 00:40:28,950
was kind of angry we all want to ghal

844
00:40:34,190 --> 00:40:30,900
dial well it's because we all want the

845
00:40:37,700 --> 00:40:34,200
scoop right we want you know and you did

846
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:37,710
that in this guy I was completely blown

847
00:40:45,890 --> 00:40:42,450
away now but also it's entertaining you

848
00:40:46,839 --> 00:40:45,900
were able to the way that you put the

849
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:46,849
film to

850
00:40:51,829 --> 00:40:49,890
it's informative and it's knowledgeable

851
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:51,839
but also it's got a pretty cool

852
00:40:57,470 --> 00:40:54,450
entertainment value too as well from

853
00:41:00,170 --> 00:40:57,480
start to finish was that intentional yes

854
00:41:02,510 --> 00:41:00,180
absolutely I wanted it to have not only

855
00:41:06,470 --> 00:41:02,520
the entertainment value but also a

856
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:06,480
production value which means that you

857
00:41:12,980 --> 00:41:09,450
did get to go to some places as opposed

858
00:41:16,069 --> 00:41:12,990
to getting just stock footage or use

859
00:41:19,849 --> 00:41:16,079
other people's footage well I really

860
00:41:22,250 --> 00:41:19,859
went out of my way to make that happen

861
00:41:23,870 --> 00:41:22,260
because that adds also to the

862
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:23,880
entertainment value so they go

863
00:41:31,130 --> 00:41:28,410
hand-in-hand and the idea was not I mean

864
00:41:34,279 --> 00:41:31,140
to present this really important and new

865
00:41:37,910 --> 00:41:34,289
information this new science but at the

866
00:41:41,359 --> 00:41:37,920
same time make it accessible to the

867
00:41:45,230 --> 00:41:41,369
average person I kind of wanted to talk

868
00:41:47,720 --> 00:41:45,240
to the mainstream all the way to the

869
00:41:49,579 --> 00:41:47,730
folks who've you know have seen every

870
00:41:52,910 --> 00:41:49,589
single UFO film like you know like

871
00:41:54,700 --> 00:41:52,920
yourself so I wanted that range and so

872
00:41:58,910 --> 00:41:54,710
that's the reason why it had to be

873
00:42:02,150 --> 00:41:58,920
entertaining and even this choice of

874
00:42:04,039 --> 00:42:02,160
music if you notice that yes yes and you

875
00:42:06,740 --> 00:42:04,049
had to have some familiar faces and at

876
00:42:10,069 --> 00:42:06,750
the same time you know have that overall

877
00:42:14,299 --> 00:42:10,079
mix of things I think it worked now

878
00:42:19,609 --> 00:42:14,309
you've always talked and spoken on a

879
00:42:21,710 --> 00:42:19,619
pretty technical level which is in one

880
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:21,720
side it's very impressive because you're

881
00:42:27,529 --> 00:42:24,930
you're well researched in this but it

882
00:42:30,890 --> 00:42:27,539
can get lost on a lot of people too as

883
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:30,900
well it goes right past them this time I

884
00:42:35,779 --> 00:42:33,450
think you toned it down a little bit for

885
00:42:37,789 --> 00:42:35,789
people like me again was that

886
00:42:41,450 --> 00:42:37,799
intentional because it's just really

887
00:42:44,059 --> 00:42:41,460
well done yeah I think there are some

888
00:42:45,950 --> 00:42:44,069
moments that maybe the average person

889
00:42:48,319 --> 00:42:45,960
would go hah what was that about maybe I

890
00:42:51,789 --> 00:42:48,329
need to watch it again but these are

891
00:42:53,809 --> 00:42:51,799
just a few moments and I think a few

892
00:42:56,390 --> 00:42:53,819
professionals actually in the business

893
00:42:58,510 --> 00:42:56,400
producers and distributors and things

894
00:42:59,810 --> 00:42:58,520
like that people who weren't necessarily

895
00:43:03,860 --> 00:42:59,820
UFO

896
00:43:07,300 --> 00:43:03,870
folks said the same thing they said you

897
00:43:11,030 --> 00:43:07,310
know you there is such important and

898
00:43:13,550 --> 00:43:11,040
complicated topics but you kind of

899
00:43:16,250 --> 00:43:13,560
managed to right away kind of bring it

900
00:43:19,220 --> 00:43:16,260
down or bring it back to a level that I

901
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:19,230
could understand that I could enjoy so

902
00:43:24,620 --> 00:43:22,050
that is that was definitely on purpose

903
00:43:26,660 --> 00:43:24,630
because I didn't want to lose people and

904
00:43:28,670 --> 00:43:26,670
as you know Jimmy I've been teaching all

905
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:28,680
this very technical stuff for a long

906
00:43:34,340 --> 00:43:32,130
time and not everybody can handle it you

907
00:43:37,910 --> 00:43:34,350
know I mean some people can't sit in

908
00:43:39,740 --> 00:43:37,920
classrooms or do workshop after workshop

909
00:43:41,870 --> 00:43:39,750
under you know trying to understand all

910
00:43:44,180 --> 00:43:41,880
this difficult stuff that's one of the

911
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:44,190
reason why I wanted to make it a film so

912
00:43:48,830 --> 00:43:46,050
that you are talking about this

913
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:48,840
important stuff technical stuff but in

914
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:51,930
the package in a way that is easy to

915
00:43:57,530 --> 00:43:54,210
absorb and easy to understand

916
00:44:00,470 --> 00:43:57,540
now let's I want to make the

917
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:00,480
announcement I'll do it you know what

918
00:44:05,750 --> 00:44:02,490
I'm going to enjoy this for a second so

919
00:44:09,050 --> 00:44:05,760
let me just let me say this the film is

920
00:44:12,740 --> 00:44:09,060
going to do its premiere in the United

921
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:12,750
States at contact in the desert I just

922
00:44:16,460 --> 00:44:15,090
got off the phone with contact to make

923
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:16,470
sure that I could officially announce

924
00:44:21,530 --> 00:44:19,530
this I've been given the greenlight so

925
00:44:22,940 --> 00:44:21,540
congratulations on that that films going

926
00:44:24,020 --> 00:44:22,950
to premiere a contact in the desert

927
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:24,030
there's going to be a lot of fate or

928
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:26,610
nods a lot of our fans there but also a

929
00:44:31,100 --> 00:44:29,010
very very large audience is going to be

930
00:44:32,510 --> 00:44:31,110
exposed to this how to contact in the

931
00:44:35,270 --> 00:44:32,520
desert so with that I'm going to say

932
00:44:36,620 --> 00:44:35,280
congratulations and in two weeks contact

933
00:44:38,900 --> 00:44:36,630
in the desert this is going to kick off

934
00:44:41,810 --> 00:44:38,910
now this is part of your media blitz

935
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:41,820
that you are on the road doing right now

936
00:44:47,630 --> 00:44:45,450
as we speak and where can everybody go

937
00:44:51,140 --> 00:44:47,640
and see the trailer before these

938
00:44:53,150 --> 00:44:51,150
premieres so the trailer is on YouTube

939
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:53,160
but also I think the easiest ways for

940
00:44:59,570 --> 00:44:55,410
people to go to the main website which

941
00:45:01,880 --> 00:44:59,580
is gods among us calm and they can see

942
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:01,890
the trailer right on the homepage and

943
00:45:07,430 --> 00:45:05,130
then they can go to the events page on

944
00:45:10,430 --> 00:45:07,440
that same website and they can see all

945
00:45:13,790 --> 00:45:10,440
the places where the film is going to be

946
00:45:17,540 --> 00:45:13,800
screened so I'm very excited because

947
00:45:20,330 --> 00:45:17,550
of course contact in a desert is attract

948
00:45:23,150 --> 00:45:20,340
so many people and I'm very excited to

949
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:23,160
be bringing this different perspective

950
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:25,170
this different approach to all these

951
00:45:31,850 --> 00:45:27,810
folks so that's really really exciting

952
00:45:36,020 --> 00:45:31,860
and also the film before I even finished

953
00:45:38,930 --> 00:45:36,030
it actually it got selected it was part

954
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:38,940
of the official selection at a sci-fi

955
00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:41,610
film festival in New York City so it's

956
00:45:46,610 --> 00:45:44,250
that will be the New York premiere also

957
00:45:49,310 --> 00:45:46,620
on May 28th so for the folks who are in

958
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:49,320
that area so but what the best thing is

959
00:45:53,030 --> 00:45:50,610
for people to go to the main website

960
00:45:55,220 --> 00:45:53,040
gods among us and they'll find all the

961
00:45:59,720 --> 00:45:55,230
information there now if you were going

962
00:46:05,030 --> 00:45:59,730
to describe this documentary how would

963
00:46:09,530 --> 00:46:05,040
you do that well I would say it is about

964
00:46:13,330 --> 00:46:09,540
the science of contact contact with any

965
00:46:17,650 --> 00:46:13,340
form of non human extraterrestrial

966
00:46:22,190 --> 00:46:17,660
otherworldly intelligence this film

967
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:22,200
talks about the stories of some of these

968
00:46:28,730 --> 00:46:25,770
contactees experiences but brings the

969
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:28,740
science behind it like never before and

970
00:46:36,350 --> 00:46:33,170
actually we have made scientific

971
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:36,360
discovery during the filming like I said

972
00:46:43,550 --> 00:46:41,010
I wanted to you would think that the you

973
00:46:46,790 --> 00:46:43,560
know the best way to prove that there

974
00:46:49,970 --> 00:46:46,800
are aliens in human form or aliens among

975
00:46:53,150 --> 00:46:49,980
us or visiting us or what-have-you is to

976
00:46:55,610 --> 00:46:53,160
do a kind of a DNA testing and see if

977
00:46:58,910 --> 00:46:55,620
their DNA is different or our DNA is

978
00:47:02,030 --> 00:46:58,920
different or what-have-you but the DNA

979
00:47:05,090 --> 00:47:02,040
is so complicated I mean beyond belief

980
00:47:09,260 --> 00:47:05,100
so we had to be very creative you know

981
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:09,270
to find a way to bring that scientific

982
00:47:14,830 --> 00:47:13,530
validation that scientific proof you

983
00:47:17,870 --> 00:47:14,840
know from a completely different

984
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:17,880
unexpected perspective and and we did

985
00:47:26,750 --> 00:47:21,690
that we managed to prove scientifically

986
00:47:27,390 --> 00:47:26,760
that the DNA does come in contact with a

987
00:47:32,260 --> 00:47:27,400
nail

988
00:47:35,590 --> 00:47:32,270
or a nonhuman intelligence and it does

989
00:47:37,570 --> 00:47:35,600
change and that is revolutionary in fact

990
00:47:42,810 --> 00:47:37,580
it's a scientific discovery meaning no

991
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:42,820
one's done it before to see these

992
00:47:48,700 --> 00:47:47,930
educated people on screen talking about

993
00:47:52,150 --> 00:47:48,710
this

994
00:47:55,240 --> 00:47:52,160
I felt that I can't wait to hear your

995
00:47:59,290 --> 00:47:55,250
answer on this I felt that they were

996
00:48:03,430 --> 00:47:59,300
going into a zone that they didn't feel

997
00:48:07,180 --> 00:48:03,440
comfortable with in front of people they

998
00:48:10,270 --> 00:48:07,190
knew that yeah they knew the facts for

999
00:48:14,340 --> 00:48:10,280
the facts right and the data you know

1000
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:14,350
what I mean but but they eventually

1001
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:17,930
started to let their guard down did you

1002
00:48:22,150 --> 00:48:20,330
feel that start to move along in the

1003
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:22,160
film too as well you had to have a

1004
00:48:27,010 --> 00:48:23,690
moment there Caroline where you were

1005
00:48:29,380 --> 00:48:27,020
like yes right I know I know and it's

1006
00:48:31,210 --> 00:48:29,390
funny also there's between us of course

1007
00:48:34,420 --> 00:48:31,220
there's millions people now listening

1008
00:48:37,270 --> 00:48:34,430
but you know also what the conversations

1009
00:48:39,610 --> 00:48:37,280
that happen after we stop the camera you

1010
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:39,620
know we stopped filming where the

1011
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:42,290
scientist is saying something but then

1012
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:45,170
is kind of getting uncomfortable and

1013
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:47,570
finally saying it as it is because it's

1014
00:48:52,900 --> 00:48:49,610
all you know black on white it's right

1015
00:48:55,720 --> 00:48:52,910
there but then after we stopped the

1016
00:48:58,150 --> 00:48:55,730
camera rolling then you know of course

1017
00:49:01,030 --> 00:48:58,160
they they get more comfortable and kind

1018
00:49:04,870 --> 00:49:01,040
of tell us more and more so it's a lot

1019
00:49:06,940 --> 00:49:04,880
of fun but on camera for sure I think a

1020
00:49:11,050 --> 00:49:06,950
couple of times we had to push them to

1021
00:49:14,380 --> 00:49:11,060
the limit which was kind of fun but but

1022
00:49:21,310 --> 00:49:14,390
others I was also amazed how some of the

1023
00:49:24,850 --> 00:49:21,320
most famous renowned and I mean so

1024
00:49:28,570 --> 00:49:24,860
knowledgeable as scientists were also

1025
00:49:32,230 --> 00:49:28,580
talking about cosmic intelligence and

1026
00:49:35,410 --> 00:49:32,240
cosmic mind and the universe is the

1027
00:49:38,650 --> 00:49:35,420
conscious creation and I mean you would

1028
00:49:41,170 --> 00:49:38,660
never think that these types of scholars

1029
00:49:43,690 --> 00:49:41,180
and scientists would even use those

1030
00:49:49,359 --> 00:49:43,700
so that was so refreshing that was so

1031
00:49:51,370 --> 00:49:49,369
amazing when you started to go down this

1032
00:49:53,589 --> 00:49:51,380
road back when you were in the

1033
00:49:56,380 --> 00:49:53,599
entertainment industry and you were

1034
00:49:59,589 --> 00:49:56,390
making you know contact and things were

1035
00:50:03,069 --> 00:49:59,599
changing for you you did you feel that

1036
00:50:06,630 --> 00:50:03,079
you had to go and and make a film to

1037
00:50:11,290 --> 00:50:06,640
finally you know get this out there to

1038
00:50:13,059 --> 00:50:11,300
two men one I don't want ya I want you

1039
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:13,069
to take this the wrong way take this the

1040
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:15,290
wrong way where where people wouldn't

1041
00:50:20,290 --> 00:50:17,210
think that you were just completely not

1042
00:50:22,510 --> 00:50:20,300
I know it's okay I don't think the wrong

1043
00:50:24,670 --> 00:50:22,520
way but you understand what actually you

1044
00:50:26,470 --> 00:50:24,680
do but actually no this is great point

1045
00:50:28,240 --> 00:50:26,480
also I'm glad you're bringing this up

1046
00:50:31,359 --> 00:50:28,250
because actually before the

1047
00:50:33,700 --> 00:50:31,369
entertainment that was my day job I have

1048
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:33,710
started to have experiences and have

1049
00:50:38,260 --> 00:50:36,290
been in contact with many types of

1050
00:50:43,329 --> 00:50:38,270
intelligence since I was five years old

1051
00:50:45,670 --> 00:50:43,339
so I understood that world at a very

1052
00:50:47,410 --> 00:50:45,680
young age I could see the subtle energy

1053
00:50:49,300 --> 00:50:47,420
I could see the beings I could see

1054
00:50:52,750 --> 00:50:49,310
consciousness I could see the structure

1055
00:50:54,670 --> 00:50:52,760
of space so I understood reality at a

1056
00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:54,680
completely different level since the age

1057
00:51:00,250 --> 00:50:57,770
of five so I had this I was living this

1058
00:51:03,750 --> 00:51:00,260
double life growing up I knew this

1059
00:51:07,780 --> 00:51:03,760
reality was real and the more I

1060
00:51:10,329 --> 00:51:07,790
continued kind of focusing on it the

1061
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:10,339
more I would have validation after

1062
00:51:15,550 --> 00:51:13,010
validation after validation and so

1063
00:51:19,329 --> 00:51:15,560
that's the reason why I knew is real but

1064
00:51:20,950 --> 00:51:19,339
my day job somehow took me into the arts

1065
00:51:22,839 --> 00:51:20,960
first I start with the Performing Arts

1066
00:51:25,390 --> 00:51:22,849
and then I started producing very

1067
00:51:28,870 --> 00:51:25,400
large-scale concerts and things like

1068
00:51:30,730 --> 00:51:28,880
that and so so I did that it was also

1069
00:51:34,630 --> 00:51:30,740
kind of fun to have that day job but I

1070
00:51:38,050 --> 00:51:34,640
never let go of my other reality so to

1071
00:51:40,059 --> 00:51:38,060
speak except that at one point it had to

1072
00:51:42,579 --> 00:51:40,069
take over it was like this doesn't make

1073
00:51:45,180 --> 00:51:42,589
sense like why am i doing all of these

1074
00:51:48,819 --> 00:51:45,190
concerts and all of these events that

1075
00:51:52,870 --> 00:51:48,829
don't have this beautiful profound rich

1076
00:51:53,710 --> 00:51:52,880
meaning that I have in this other part

1077
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:53,720
of my life

1078
00:51:59,380 --> 00:51:56,570
and so and so that's why I actually had

1079
00:52:03,130 --> 00:51:59,390
a very bland murse job very high the

1080
00:52:05,620 --> 00:52:03,140
well-paid position and with all the

1081
00:52:07,810 --> 00:52:05,630
perks and everything else and I had to

1082
00:52:10,870 --> 00:52:07,820
leave that behind because it was just so

1083
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:10,880
kind of not going anywhere in terms of

1084
00:52:16,450 --> 00:52:14,210
strong spiritual fulfilment and I

1085
00:52:18,430 --> 00:52:16,460
decided to just focus on the

1086
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:18,440
spirituality and the consciousness

1087
00:52:24,850 --> 00:52:22,610
aspect and from what I've learned I was

1088
00:52:26,860 --> 00:52:24,860
able to combine both to be able to do

1089
00:52:30,370 --> 00:52:26,870
the work that I'm doing right now and

1090
00:52:32,860 --> 00:52:30,380
I'm so thrilled actually like finally

1091
00:52:34,690 --> 00:52:32,870
you know I am combining these two things

1092
00:52:38,050 --> 00:52:34,700
because people love movies people love

1093
00:52:40,720 --> 00:52:38,060
stories people love performing art so

1094
00:52:42,460 --> 00:52:40,730
it's a great vehicle and I'm going to

1095
00:52:47,470 --> 00:52:42,470
continue doing it for sure

1096
00:52:49,780 --> 00:52:47,480
now there are a couple of scientific art

1097
00:52:52,740 --> 00:52:49,790
core scientific experiments and tests

1098
00:52:56,380 --> 00:52:52,750
that were done in the film did you know

1099
00:53:00,670 --> 00:52:56,390
going in what the results were going to

1100
00:53:03,700 --> 00:53:00,680
be or do is this completely candid yeah

1101
00:53:06,430 --> 00:53:03,710
I of course I had an idea because as I

1102
00:53:08,170 --> 00:53:06,440
just started talking I mean my

1103
00:53:11,830 --> 00:53:08,180
experience started at a very young age

1104
00:53:13,990 --> 00:53:11,840
so I'm extremely sensitive I can see I'm

1105
00:53:17,170 --> 00:53:14,000
very well guided about those sorts of

1106
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:17,180
things so of course I went in knowing we

1107
00:53:22,210 --> 00:53:19,850
will have a result but what result how

1108
00:53:25,510 --> 00:53:22,220
much of a result none of that

1109
00:53:28,750 --> 00:53:25,520
I knew nor did I want to know because I

1110
00:53:31,240 --> 00:53:28,760
want you know I wanted to see how that

1111
00:53:34,240 --> 00:53:31,250
was going to turn out you know like for

1112
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:34,250
me coming in contact with an

1113
00:53:39,070 --> 00:53:36,490
extraterrestrial or otherworldly

1114
00:53:39,670 --> 00:53:39,080
consciousness or entity I know how that

1115
00:53:42,430 --> 00:53:39,680
feels

1116
00:53:46,090 --> 00:53:42,440
I know for sure that that contact is

1117
00:53:49,210 --> 00:53:46,100
affecting my body is changing my DNA and

1118
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:49,220
vice versa I'm doing something too with

1119
00:53:55,090 --> 00:53:52,130
that entity as well so but to have it

1120
00:53:57,550 --> 00:53:55,100
demonstrated like this on camera I

1121
00:54:00,520 --> 00:53:57,560
wanted to see what that was going to

1122
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:00,530
look like and it was amazing and we only

1123
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:04,970
showed in the film two of the results

1124
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:07,850
but we actually had other reason

1125
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:10,130
that we didn't show I mean yeah as you

1126
00:54:15,460 --> 00:54:11,810
know when you do a film you have to edit

1127
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:15,470
and kind of make sense of the story so

1128
00:54:19,780 --> 00:54:18,170
we also did even more than just in the

1129
00:54:23,170 --> 00:54:19,790
film and I could talk about those

1130
00:54:25,270 --> 00:54:23,180
experiences too that were just mind

1131
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:25,280
blown well we have cher one of those

1132
00:54:29,620 --> 00:54:27,050
with us we're going to hit a break here

1133
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:29,630
in about three minutes what didn't make

1134
00:54:35,950 --> 00:54:33,050
it to the film okay so one of the things

1135
00:54:38,430 --> 00:54:35,960
actually what I wanted to test was with

1136
00:54:42,340 --> 00:54:38,440
one of the scientists that the couple

1137
00:54:45,460 --> 00:54:42,350
Beverly Rubik and Harry jabs and they

1138
00:54:49,240 --> 00:54:45,470
work on the biophoton the counting the

1139
00:54:52,570 --> 00:54:49,250
number of photon particles that are

1140
00:54:56,500 --> 00:54:52,580
emanated from a body from a human body

1141
00:54:59,740 --> 00:54:56,510
and so I will I suggested to do an

1142
00:55:02,950 --> 00:54:59,750
experiment instead of just having a

1143
00:55:05,890 --> 00:55:02,960
person in a meditative state and just or

1144
00:55:08,950 --> 00:55:05,900
in healing kind of state and measuring

1145
00:55:12,190 --> 00:55:08,960
that biophoton emission which is

1146
00:55:14,380 --> 00:55:12,200
supposed to increase when you are in a

1147
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:14,390
meditative state what I wanted to do I

1148
00:55:22,750 --> 00:55:18,290
said well how about we bring a an entity

1149
00:55:27,220 --> 00:55:22,760
and we put it in contact with a human

1150
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:27,230
with a person what would what would

1151
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:29,570
happen in that case and eventually we

1152
00:55:33,670 --> 00:55:31,010
couldn't get to do it this way but I

1153
00:55:37,270 --> 00:55:33,680
wanted to also do it long distance and

1154
00:55:41,730 --> 00:55:37,280
so I was in Los Angeles and they were in

1155
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:41,740
San Francisco area and I basically a

1156
00:55:48,510 --> 00:55:46,130
trend basically I kind of projected if

1157
00:55:51,460 --> 00:55:48,520
you will a specific type of

1158
00:55:57,190 --> 00:55:51,470
consciousness or entity is more like an

1159
00:56:00,970 --> 00:55:57,200
angelic type being into their lab and it

1160
00:56:03,850 --> 00:56:00,980
was astounding what happened so for

1161
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:03,860
those who understand scientific testing

1162
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:07,370
what happens is that you are you do a

1163
00:56:12,340 --> 00:56:10,370
test you're on for 20 minutes off for 20

1164
00:56:15,550 --> 00:56:12,350
minutes on 20 minutes off 20 minutes

1165
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:15,560
that's how you measure that something is

1166
00:56:20,590 --> 00:56:18,530
happening and so if something happens

1167
00:56:21,220 --> 00:56:20,600
during the time that you're on meaning

1168
00:56:23,050 --> 00:56:21,230
that you are

1169
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:23,060
sending the signal then you know

1170
00:56:28,630 --> 00:56:25,010
something happened does that make sense

1171
00:56:31,690 --> 00:56:28,640
and so it's called timely correlation it

1172
00:56:34,300 --> 00:56:31,700
means during that time it correlated

1173
00:56:36,730 --> 00:56:34,310
exactly with when the entity was there

1174
00:56:41,530 --> 00:56:36,740
and their machines were like you know

1175
00:56:43,780 --> 00:56:41,540
just like shooting up 400% every time we

1176
00:56:44,590 --> 00:56:43,790
brought that entity into that lab that's

1177
00:56:47,290 --> 00:56:44,600
crazy

1178
00:56:49,420 --> 00:56:47,300
and watching you know it is it is

1179
00:56:50,530 --> 00:56:49,430
because when you watch Harry in Beverly

1180
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:50,540
we're going to talk about them more

1181
00:56:53,650 --> 00:56:51,290
after the break

1182
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:53,660
but but watching them and their

1183
00:57:01,060 --> 00:56:57,770
reactions to this was was pretty cool

1184
00:57:03,700 --> 00:57:01,070
you know and and with them I've got

1185
00:57:06,490 --> 00:57:03,710
about 30 seconds with them where they

1186
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:06,500
were they into this subject

1187
00:57:12,180 --> 00:57:08,450
going into the film that they have any

1188
00:57:15,099 --> 00:57:12,190
idea what they because she's a

1189
00:57:17,830 --> 00:57:15,109
microbiologist right this isn't her in

1190
00:57:20,380 --> 00:57:17,840
her wheelhouse is it no no actually

1191
00:57:22,540 --> 00:57:20,390
these guys have been studying subtle

1192
00:57:25,599 --> 00:57:22,550
energy and the the the effect of

1193
00:57:29,650 --> 00:57:25,609
consciousness on the physical reality so

1194
00:57:32,260 --> 00:57:29,660
these guys and Glenn Ryan as well so

1195
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:32,270
that has been their work but what they

1196
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:35,930
have never done is to bring a specific

1197
00:57:42,130 --> 00:57:39,290
entity and you know bringing in kind of

1198
00:57:44,050 --> 00:57:42,140
maked measuring the contents yeah that's

1199
00:57:46,570 --> 00:57:44,060
what I'm yeah yeah that's what I'm very

1200
00:57:48,340 --> 00:57:46,580
much yeah they were like what it was

1201
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:48,350
pretty trippy to watch let's take a

1202
00:57:52,540 --> 00:57:50,210
break right here our guest tonight

1203
00:57:54,790 --> 00:57:52,550
Caroline Khoury her new film is called

1204
00:57:58,750 --> 00:57:54,800
gods among us we've got all of the links

1205
00:58:01,240 --> 00:57:58,760
up in Twitter Jason just posted up the

1206
00:58:03,910 --> 00:58:01,250
the poster it's an amazing poster too as

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well everything is there in our twitter

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feed hashtag f2b this is paid to black

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are guessing Mike Caroline Korey North

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Carolina after the break stay with us

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and now Caroline what I would like to do

1294
01:02:42,239 --> 01:02:39,729
here you've assembled a pretty amazing

1295
01:02:43,890 --> 01:02:42,249
cast of characters here and and I want

1296
01:02:46,319 --> 01:02:43,900
to kind of go through this a little bit

1297
01:02:51,059 --> 01:02:46,329
and the first I mean I was just floored

1298
01:02:53,460 --> 01:02:51,069
by Zach and I want to know some behind

1299
01:02:59,069 --> 01:02:53,470
the scenes thing first man I don't know

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what he was like and and also how how

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old is AK Zach is 19 and from the first

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minute that I spoke with him I was blown

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away 9 by 9 19 years old

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01:03:19,979 --> 01:03:15,519
unbelievable unbelievable speaks like a

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mature scientist expert in the field of

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quantum you know Isaac for everything

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01:03:30,870 --> 01:03:26,529
else I mean it's amazing now how how

1308
01:03:34,019 --> 01:03:30,880
cool is that to make contact no pun

1309
01:03:37,079 --> 01:03:34,029
intended with with the next generation

1310
01:03:40,319 --> 01:03:37,089
right he's 19 years old I was thinking

1311
01:03:44,099 --> 01:03:40,329
he was 20 21 he looks like he could play

1312
01:03:48,690 --> 01:03:44,109
guitar in a band and you see and you

1313
01:03:52,559 --> 01:03:48,700
just he is his youthfulness that's what

1314
01:03:55,259 --> 01:03:52,569
I you know he is he's right there he's

1315
01:03:56,969 --> 01:03:55,269
right there and connected and he's 19

1316
01:04:00,719 --> 01:03:56,979
years old speaks like he's Stephen

1317
01:04:05,999 --> 01:04:00,729
Hawking exactly and in fact he had most

1318
01:04:09,180 --> 01:04:06,009
of his experiences when he was 9 so and

1319
01:04:12,809 --> 01:04:09,190
he was telling me about some of these

1320
01:04:15,990 --> 01:04:12,819
variances when he actually met Nikola

1321
01:04:18,569 --> 01:04:16,000
Tesla inter-dimensionally and he

1322
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:18,579
downloaded all sorts of information and

1323
01:04:22,950 --> 01:04:20,530
formulas and things like that we could

1324
01:04:25,290 --> 01:04:22,960
only fit some of it in the film and you

1325
01:04:28,609 --> 01:04:25,300
know of course what was relevant but

1326
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:28,619
just to have a conversation with this

1327
01:04:35,700 --> 01:04:32,530
kid I'm saying kid but I know I know

1328
01:04:37,829 --> 01:04:35,710
right him yes yes yes yes yes you can

1329
01:04:41,550 --> 01:04:37,839
feel it energy I mean he is so

1330
01:04:45,359 --> 01:04:41,560
intelligent mature and the wisdom you

1331
01:04:47,819 --> 01:04:45,369
can tell that it's a universal

1332
01:04:50,370 --> 01:04:47,829
consciousness speaking through him it is

1333
01:04:54,290 --> 01:04:50,380
not in nineteen year old well what was

1334
01:04:57,420 --> 01:04:54,300
he like off of camera actually the same

1335
01:04:59,970 --> 01:04:57,430
you know he's yeah I mean you talk about

1336
01:05:02,910 --> 01:04:59,980
for example I don't know when we were

1337
01:05:05,730 --> 01:05:02,920
there filming as you know for example we

1338
01:05:08,010 --> 01:05:05,740
would take a break right so some people

1339
01:05:10,109 --> 01:05:08,020
would go and grab a drink or what have

1340
01:05:12,630 --> 01:05:10,119
you so we'll say oh do you want to eat

1341
01:05:15,839 --> 01:05:12,640
something and and you would see just

1342
01:05:18,690 --> 01:05:15,849
about everything the way he was the way

1343
01:05:20,849 --> 01:05:18,700
he was speaking about food and what it

1344
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:20,859
means to him what he would eat and not

1345
01:05:27,030 --> 01:05:23,290
either what he's attracted to I mean

1346
01:05:30,150 --> 01:05:27,040
like he is so conscious about everything

1347
01:05:33,059 --> 01:05:30,160
so that he wasn't putting on a show for

1348
01:05:33,930 --> 01:05:33,069
us on camera at all he was like this the

1349
01:05:37,650 --> 01:05:33,940
whole time

1350
01:05:41,450 --> 01:05:37,660
and so it was said you know to me it was

1351
01:05:45,210 --> 01:05:41,460
such a pleasure to see such a young

1352
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:45,220
person be so mature so wise so

1353
01:05:51,210 --> 01:05:48,250
intelligence I mean I just loved him he

1354
01:05:56,069 --> 01:05:51,220
must rip his friends out he must rip his

1355
01:06:01,230 --> 01:05:56,079
friends up so smart and you know again

1356
01:06:04,079 --> 01:06:01,240
we talk so much and and you're quite

1357
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:04,089
aware of this - I don't want to have a

1358
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:08,290
generation gap in in in ethology or

1359
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:13,210
contact and I think that this this world

1360
01:06:17,339 --> 01:06:15,250
has been fighting just that we've gone

1361
01:06:20,510 --> 01:06:17,349
through different phases of this and

1362
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:20,520
what we need are

1363
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:23,850
are you know kids I call me kid he's not

1364
01:06:28,490 --> 01:06:26,490
a kid right now but when you see them on

1365
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:28,500
screen you're like holy crap okay this

1366
01:06:32,870 --> 01:06:30,450
is not what we're used to seeing and

1367
01:06:35,180 --> 01:06:32,880
that's the end that's the generation

1368
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:35,190
that we need to grab ahold of right

1369
01:06:39,740 --> 01:06:37,770
there and make sure that we get them

1370
01:06:43,790 --> 01:06:39,750
talking and speaking about their

1371
01:06:45,830 --> 01:06:43,800
experiences he's 19 and it was just a

1372
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:45,840
joy to watch but that's exactly what we

1373
01:06:51,380 --> 01:06:48,290
need to do here isn't it yeah absolutely

1374
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:51,390
it was amazing and also I wanted to also

1375
01:06:58,220 --> 01:06:55,050
bring another 19 year old Antonio who's

1376
01:07:00,200 --> 01:06:58,230
also in the film and the same thing

1377
01:07:01,700 --> 01:07:00,210
happened and just for people who because

1378
01:07:04,790 --> 01:07:01,710
people have not watched the film

1379
01:07:07,070 --> 01:07:04,800
obviously just for people to clarify for

1380
01:07:09,650 --> 01:07:07,080
the folks who are listening when we say

1381
01:07:10,820 --> 01:07:09,660
intelligence we're not talking about you

1382
01:07:13,490 --> 01:07:10,830
know sometimes you see kids on

1383
01:07:16,490 --> 01:07:13,500
television who can calculate whatever

1384
01:07:18,590 --> 01:07:16,500
who some complicated numbers multiply

1385
01:07:20,930 --> 01:07:18,600
divide it's not that kind of

1386
01:07:22,910 --> 01:07:20,940
intelligence and perhaps maybe maybe he

1387
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:22,920
is a little bit of that I'm not sure

1388
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:24,690
right but that's not what we're talking

1389
01:07:28,070 --> 01:07:25,650
about right Sammy

1390
01:07:33,140 --> 01:07:28,080
hey Jimmy it's an intelligence it's a

1391
01:07:38,270 --> 01:07:33,150
wisdom communication yes yes a real

1392
01:07:40,670 --> 01:07:38,280
communication a part of that is the

1393
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:40,680
vocabulary you know there's there's that

1394
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:43,290
part of it but there's an intelligence

1395
01:07:48,500 --> 01:07:46,170
where their brain is connected to their

1396
01:07:50,930 --> 01:07:48,510
soul and they are able to get it out of

1397
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:50,940
their mouth that is a very difficult

1398
01:07:55,370 --> 01:07:53,970
thing to do it's wise beyond years I

1399
01:07:58,280 --> 01:07:55,380
hate it when people go you know you're

1400
01:08:01,550 --> 01:07:58,290
an old soul you're an old butt but there

1401
01:08:04,340 --> 01:08:01,560
is something that is going on here with

1402
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:04,350
Zach and now we just brought up Antonio

1403
01:08:09,650 --> 01:08:07,530
but before we get to Antonio and

1404
01:08:11,690 --> 01:08:09,660
everybody when you see this film and you

1405
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:11,700
get to Zach and you get to Antonio

1406
01:08:16,940 --> 01:08:14,130
you're going to remember this

1407
01:08:20,530 --> 01:08:16,950
conversation that Caroline and I are

1408
01:08:27,950 --> 01:08:20,540
having right now I promise you that Zach

1409
01:08:30,019 --> 01:08:27,960
goes into he speaks and and again this

1410
01:08:32,979 --> 01:08:30,029
is for the film you need to go and see

1411
01:08:38,140 --> 01:08:32,989
it but when that happened well he's

1412
01:08:41,170 --> 01:08:38,150
of course he speaks but he repeats some

1413
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:41,180
of the stuff that he has been told and

1414
01:08:45,700 --> 01:08:43,730
he does it in real time on camera I want

1415
01:08:49,390 --> 01:08:45,710
to ask you Caroline when that happened

1416
01:08:51,550 --> 01:08:49,400
what went through your mind yeah we were

1417
01:08:53,559 --> 01:08:51,560
blown away I mean I was interviewing him

1418
01:08:55,900 --> 01:08:53,569
obviously I was on camera as well but

1419
01:08:59,200 --> 01:08:55,910
everybody in the crew it was dead

1420
01:09:03,130 --> 01:08:59,210
silence everybody was like blown away by

1421
01:09:05,769 --> 01:09:03,140
him blown away it's it's like you said

1422
01:09:09,340 --> 01:09:05,779
also it's amazing the vocabulary

1423
01:09:11,849 --> 01:09:09,350
he's so eloquent the way he speaks and I

1424
01:09:16,209 --> 01:09:11,859
think he said that he was home-schooled

1425
01:09:19,749 --> 01:09:16,219
that just the stories that come out of

1426
01:09:21,849 --> 01:09:19,759
his mouth in the way he also puts the

1427
01:09:26,229 --> 01:09:21,859
meaning to these stories

1428
01:09:28,690 --> 01:09:26,239
it's beyond wisdom it's really divine

1429
01:09:32,349 --> 01:09:28,700
intelligence I want to say speaking

1430
01:09:34,030 --> 01:09:32,359
through him and so it's just so

1431
01:09:37,269 --> 01:09:34,040
refreshing and I'm so glad you you're

1432
01:09:39,519 --> 01:09:37,279
mentioning him because these are right

1433
01:09:43,510 --> 01:09:39,529
like you said this is the generation

1434
01:09:45,550 --> 01:09:43,520
that we want to see everywhere I was so

1435
01:09:48,670 --> 01:09:45,560
excited to have him in the film

1436
01:09:52,269 --> 01:09:48,680
and again the you know Antonio as well

1437
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:52,279
and I'm also working with other children

1438
01:09:58,020 --> 01:09:54,530
for the next film by the way this is

1439
01:10:02,229 --> 01:09:58,030
going to be a series by the way sure I

1440
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:02,239
mean not V not it yeah right right right

1441
01:10:07,930 --> 01:10:05,330
how did you how did you find Jack so

1442
01:10:10,180 --> 01:10:07,940
actually Zack I found through Mary

1443
01:10:12,430 --> 01:10:10,190
Rodwell because the way I started

1444
01:10:15,310 --> 01:10:12,440
speaking with Mary Rodwell a while back

1445
01:10:18,580 --> 01:10:15,320
before the film and in one of the

1446
01:10:20,860 --> 01:10:18,590
interviews I think I mentioned I wanted

1447
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:20,870
somebody who spoke the different

1448
01:10:24,070 --> 01:10:22,610
languages you know galactic languages

1449
01:10:27,310 --> 01:10:24,080
and things like that and she mentioned

1450
01:10:27,910 --> 01:10:27,320
Zack and right away I felt like my heart

1451
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:27,920
jump

1452
01:10:31,870 --> 01:10:30,170
I felt I need to connect with that it

1453
01:10:35,440 --> 01:10:31,880
was back so that's how it worked and we

1454
01:10:39,220 --> 01:10:35,450
emailed and from that moment I knew and

1455
01:10:42,700 --> 01:10:39,230
you know Zack travels all around the

1456
01:10:45,950 --> 01:10:42,710
world he lives in Europe most of the

1457
01:10:49,100 --> 01:10:45,960
time but he always is traveling some

1458
01:10:52,420 --> 01:10:49,110
they're discovering and just connecting

1459
01:10:55,850 --> 01:10:52,430
with nature so he's 19 years old and he

1460
01:10:59,390 --> 01:10:55,860
speaks this way he understands the

1461
01:11:00,860 --> 01:10:59,400
mechanics of the universe I mean that's

1462
01:11:03,290 --> 01:11:00,870
the source of intelligence and

1463
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:03,300
consciousness and he goes through

1464
01:11:11,180 --> 01:11:06,930
different places on the planet to kind

1465
01:11:14,180 --> 01:11:11,190
of discover his own truth and the truth

1466
01:11:18,050 --> 01:11:14,190
of these different parts of the planet

1467
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:18,060
and so yeah the Tesla the Tesla part

1468
01:11:23,270 --> 01:11:21,810
freaked me out that yeah I mean it's

1469
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:23,280
just I can't wait for the audience to

1470
01:11:25,790 --> 01:11:25,170
see the film because they're going to go

1471
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:25,800
man

1472
01:11:29,270 --> 01:11:27,930
you're right Church it was a holy crap

1473
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:29,280
moment

1474
01:11:33,440 --> 01:11:31,890
but and when he starts to speak in the

1475
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:33,450
alien language I'm just letting

1476
01:11:36,620 --> 01:11:34,770
everybody know when you see it you're

1477
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:36,630
going to remember Caroline a nice

1478
01:11:43,700 --> 01:11:39,930
conversation which takes me to the same

1479
01:11:44,870 --> 01:11:43,710
situation with Antonio now Antonio again

1480
01:11:50,510 --> 01:11:44,880
he's 19

1481
01:11:57,729 --> 01:11:50,520
yep 19 years old yes unbelievable I mean

1482
01:12:01,070 --> 01:11:57,739
I am just so so jealous and impressed

1483
01:12:02,900 --> 01:12:01,080
and how did you find Antonio and now he

1484
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:02,910
leaves anything

1485
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:04,890
yeah the two kids knew each other as

1486
01:12:13,550 --> 01:12:09,170
well also through Mary we connected now

1487
01:12:16,580 --> 01:12:13,560
Antonio isn't is also just beyond

1488
01:12:21,220 --> 01:12:16,590
brilliant but he comes up with geometry

1489
01:12:24,940 --> 01:12:21,230
and forms and shapes and he speaks about

1490
01:12:28,340 --> 01:12:24,950
patterns like I said like some advanced

1491
01:12:30,260 --> 01:12:28,350
physicists you know understanding the

1492
01:12:34,310 --> 01:12:30,270
mechanics of the universe but slightly

1493
01:12:39,550 --> 01:12:34,320
different I want to say that Zak is more

1494
01:12:43,310 --> 01:12:39,560
eloquent in some ways Antonio is more

1495
01:12:45,860 --> 01:12:43,320
enter his energy he's free and warm oh

1496
01:12:47,870 --> 01:12:45,870
my god yeah I'd appreciate more faithful

1497
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:47,880
but I want to tell you something also

1498
01:12:55,100 --> 01:12:50,850
that didn't make it in the film so what

1499
01:12:57,290 --> 01:12:55,110
happened was we so I knew that they

1500
01:12:59,750 --> 01:12:57,300
could speak that language and I could to

1501
01:13:02,360 --> 01:12:59,760
by the way but it did in a different way

1502
01:13:05,750 --> 01:13:02,370
a not in the same way and that was part

1503
01:13:07,970 --> 01:13:05,760
of the ideas under to the film is to see

1504
01:13:10,130 --> 01:13:07,980
how he would speak at galactic language

1505
01:13:12,740 --> 01:13:10,140
so we would you know we're rolling the

1506
01:13:14,150 --> 01:13:12,750
camera and I said okay it was all

1507
01:13:16,610 --> 01:13:14,160
spontaneous by the way we didn't

1508
01:13:18,860 --> 01:13:16,620
rehearse anything and I said okay what

1509
01:13:21,470 --> 01:13:18,870
can you speak say something in the

1510
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:21,480
galactic language and he starts to say

1511
01:13:27,050 --> 01:13:24,570
all these things and and he goes on and

1512
01:13:30,740 --> 01:13:27,060
on and on and on and as he is saying

1513
01:13:31,550 --> 01:13:30,750
these things I was seeing what he was

1514
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:31,560
saying

1515
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:36,210
say what okay explain explain explain so

1516
01:13:41,900 --> 01:13:39,930
I was basically sensing and seeing

1517
01:13:45,020 --> 01:13:41,910
because I could see the subtle energy I

1518
01:13:47,570 --> 01:13:45,030
could see what he was talking about so

1519
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:47,580
at the end of the whole chatter even

1520
01:13:54,770 --> 01:13:50,970
though I do not speak that particular

1521
01:13:57,650 --> 01:13:54,780
galactic language I understood and I saw

1522
01:14:01,340 --> 01:13:57,660
everything he said so after the taping

1523
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:01,350
after we finished that scene I told him

1524
01:14:07,010 --> 01:14:03,210
do you know what you said in that

1525
01:14:10,010 --> 01:14:07,020
language he said yes and I said I know -

1526
01:14:12,350 --> 01:14:10,020
and we started comparing notes like we

1527
01:14:16,970 --> 01:14:12,360
would finish each other sentences pretty

1528
01:14:21,830 --> 01:14:16,980
much we had seen and understood the same

1529
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:21,840
thing again as you were going through

1530
01:14:28,970 --> 01:14:25,290
the I need you to help me with this are

1531
01:14:30,070 --> 01:14:28,980
you saying that you you didn't

1532
01:14:33,290 --> 01:14:30,080
understand the language but

1533
01:14:35,810 --> 01:14:33,300
telepathically you were able to get I

1534
01:14:36,620 --> 01:14:35,820
mean how did that connection was it a

1535
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:36,630
visual

1536
01:14:42,290 --> 01:14:39,330
was it a sense you know how were you

1537
01:14:44,420 --> 01:14:42,300
able to to make sense of it look I'm

1538
01:14:48,230 --> 01:14:44,430
going to tell the audience right now I I

1539
01:14:51,350 --> 01:14:48,240
listened I I watched those scenes over

1540
01:14:52,790 --> 01:14:51,360
and over again and and okay you know

1541
01:14:55,430 --> 01:14:52,800
what I'm just going to say this and I

1542
01:14:58,460 --> 01:14:55,440
hope Zak is listening and anti Antonio -

1543
01:15:02,630 --> 01:14:58,470
I was trying to see if they were gonna

1544
01:15:06,530 --> 01:15:02,640
slip up right you know what I'm talking

1545
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:06,540
about Caroline you know and I went back

1546
01:15:11,630 --> 01:15:08,610
and I looked and I could not believe

1547
01:15:12,930 --> 01:15:11,640
what I was listening to now I did not

1548
01:15:16,500 --> 01:15:12,940
make that galactic

1549
01:15:19,410 --> 01:15:16,510
connection I had no clue but for you to

1550
01:15:21,930 --> 01:15:19,420
do that I have to know what how did you

1551
01:15:24,660 --> 01:15:21,940
pick up on the scent how did you know

1552
01:15:29,670 --> 01:15:24,670
what they were speaking so I basically

1553
01:15:31,910 --> 01:15:29,680
tuned in to the message the information

1554
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:31,920
as opposed to hearing it I wasn't

1555
01:15:37,020 --> 01:15:34,690
hearing it because it's eg language like

1556
01:15:39,420 --> 01:15:37,030
it's it's not human so it doesn't really

1557
01:15:42,750 --> 01:15:39,430
make sense so my analytical mind didn't

1558
01:15:45,150 --> 01:15:42,760
recognize any of the words right so I

1559
01:15:47,970 --> 01:15:45,160
wasn't paying attention to the words

1560
01:15:51,510 --> 01:15:47,980
hearing the words I was hearing the

1561
01:15:54,900 --> 01:15:51,520
words but my brain was tapping into the

1562
01:15:58,680 --> 01:15:54,910
meaning of the words and the meaning of

1563
01:16:01,770 --> 01:15:58,690
the words show show um showed up to me

1564
01:16:05,850 --> 01:16:01,780
as a visual in fact I can tell you what

1565
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:05,860
it is so I saw as he was speaking this

1566
01:16:14,250 --> 01:16:08,650
ET language I saw that he was being

1567
01:16:19,470 --> 01:16:14,260
initiated at some sort of a church like

1568
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:19,480
or temple like by a priest like person

1569
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:22,330
and that was about I don't know four

1570
01:16:27,570 --> 01:16:25,090
thousand years before Christ or

1571
01:16:30,350 --> 01:16:27,580
something like that so so I saw that

1572
01:16:32,970 --> 01:16:30,360
visual and that was the message and

1573
01:16:35,100 --> 01:16:32,980
after that didn't make it in a film

1574
01:16:36,870 --> 01:16:35,110
that's why I'm talking about it but when

1575
01:16:38,820 --> 01:16:36,880
people will watch the film there they'll

1576
01:16:43,110 --> 01:16:38,830
they'll understand what we're saying and

1577
01:16:45,900 --> 01:16:43,120
so after he was done with his text with

1578
01:16:49,860 --> 01:16:45,910
what he was saying then I said what did

1579
01:16:52,110 --> 01:16:49,870
the text mean to you and he said well I

1580
01:16:53,790 --> 01:16:52,120
was 10 years old and I said were you in

1581
01:16:56,070 --> 01:16:53,800
a chair he said I was immature like we

1582
01:17:00,300 --> 01:16:56,080
were kind of finishing each other's

1583
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:00,310
sentences sentences so he was saying the

1584
01:17:07,110 --> 01:17:03,489
same story that I had just seen do they

1585
01:17:10,140 --> 01:17:07,120
don't have I'm sorry good don't you this

1586
01:17:14,490 --> 01:17:10,150
tells you this is kind of validation

1587
01:17:17,550 --> 01:17:14,500
that tillis that language goes beyond

1588
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:17,560
just a human brain like hearing a

1589
01:17:22,860 --> 01:17:19,930
vocabulary like words that are put

1590
01:17:25,590 --> 01:17:22,870
together and we associate the words with

1591
01:17:28,380 --> 01:17:25,600
meaning that we understand but the

1592
01:17:31,110 --> 01:17:28,390
the universal language galactic language

1593
01:17:35,820 --> 01:17:31,120
is a universal language meaning these

1594
01:17:38,940 --> 01:17:35,830
are codes and words but that are coded

1595
01:17:42,510 --> 01:17:38,950
so that everybody understands the

1596
01:17:45,930 --> 01:17:42,520
meaning of these codes a universal

1597
01:17:49,440 --> 01:17:45,940
language right is there the Zack and

1598
01:17:51,930 --> 01:17:49,450
Antonio do they have others that they

1599
01:17:54,350 --> 01:17:51,940
can communicate with in this language I

1600
01:17:58,050 --> 01:17:54,360
mean us you know other contactees I

1601
01:18:00,210 --> 01:17:58,060
don't know if they do I mean maybe they

1602
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:00,220
found each other maybe there's you know

1603
01:18:05,580 --> 01:18:02,250
a couple of other friends I'm not sure

1604
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:05,590
George I would loved a lot Zack rap with

1605
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:09,610
somebody else in that language is that

1606
01:18:13,740 --> 01:18:11,770
that kind of car is going to be in New

1607
01:18:15,660 --> 01:18:13,750
York at the film screening and maybe

1608
01:18:17,010 --> 01:18:15,670
I'll get him to come to contact in the

1609
01:18:19,650 --> 01:18:17,020
desert oh I would love that

1610
01:18:21,780 --> 01:18:19,660
I'll get yeah I'll get his slappy butt

1611
01:18:25,500 --> 01:18:21,790
up on stage I guarantee it

1612
01:18:27,780 --> 01:18:25,510
I think he's he is he's an impressive

1613
01:18:31,950 --> 01:18:27,790
young man he's a very very impressive

1614
01:18:33,780 --> 01:18:31,960
young man so is Antonio I can put that I

1615
01:18:36,450 --> 01:18:33,790
can't express it enough it was one of

1616
01:18:37,980 --> 01:18:36,460
the now see this is the thing and I

1617
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:37,990
don't want to give away a bunch of stuff

1618
01:18:42,330 --> 01:18:39,610
in the film because I want people to be

1619
01:18:45,690 --> 01:18:42,340
blown away with it you know on the first

1620
01:18:49,020 --> 01:18:45,700
viewing you know just like I was but and

1621
01:18:51,570 --> 01:18:49,030
not to put so much on Zak and Antonio as

1622
01:18:54,950 --> 01:18:51,580
impressive as they are there were many

1623
01:18:58,740 --> 01:18:54,960
moments in this film where there were

1624
01:19:00,870 --> 01:18:58,750
conclusions and and and what I mean by

1625
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:00,880
that is we watch a lot of so there's

1626
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:03,130
nothing worse in my opinion than

1627
01:19:08,250 --> 01:19:06,010
watching a Bigfoot on series on

1628
01:19:10,890 --> 01:19:08,260
television right you know the ending

1629
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:10,900
there's going to be no Bigfoot you know

1630
01:19:17,610 --> 01:19:12,970
me you know the ending you know the

1631
01:19:21,210 --> 01:19:17,620
ending here you have a one moment after

1632
01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:21,220
another in there is no act 1 act 2 act 3

1633
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:24,250
in this documentary there's one moment

1634
01:19:29,780 --> 01:19:26,290
after another in the film where you

1635
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:29,790
conclude things things finished they're

1636
01:19:35,490 --> 01:19:32,770
not only with Zach but with a merry

1637
01:19:38,089 --> 01:19:35,500
Rodwell a Barbara lamb is in the film

1638
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:38,099
David Jacobs is in the film

1639
01:19:42,260 --> 01:19:41,010
and there are as well as the physicists

1640
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:42,270
and the scientists that are in the film

1641
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:45,449
but there are conclusions

1642
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:48,690
there are you you answer the questions

1643
01:19:53,709 --> 01:19:51,449
that you propose that is rare in this

1644
01:19:56,510 --> 01:19:53,719
type of documentary Caroline again

1645
01:19:58,669 --> 01:19:56,520
you're giving it all away in this film

1646
01:20:00,979 --> 01:19:58,679
you actually show the results of the

1647
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:00,989
conclusions of this again is that

1648
01:20:07,700 --> 01:20:04,730
intentional it is intentional because I

1649
01:20:09,919 --> 01:20:07,710
realize that there are so many people

1650
01:20:13,220 --> 01:20:09,929
still asking the same questions

1651
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:13,230
how does slap telepathy work how does it

1652
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:16,170
really work from a physics standpoint

1653
01:20:20,870 --> 01:20:18,810
not like okay I'm here and I'm sensing

1654
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:20,880
that you're gonna call me or something

1655
01:20:27,229 --> 01:20:24,810
and then I thought I heard the voice of

1656
01:20:30,979 --> 01:20:27,239
my son telling me he needs my help I

1657
01:20:33,890 --> 01:20:30,989
mean but how did it actually happen you

1658
01:20:36,589 --> 01:20:33,900
know and so I know that with all

1659
01:20:40,609 --> 01:20:36,599
information that's out there these

1660
01:20:43,189 --> 01:20:40,619
answers are still pending I mean these

1661
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:43,199
questions have not been answered and I

1662
01:20:48,530 --> 01:20:46,530
know that I wanted to do something

1663
01:20:51,589 --> 01:20:48,540
different and I wanted to provide these

1664
01:20:54,169 --> 01:20:51,599
answers you know finally so people go oh

1665
01:20:57,370 --> 01:20:54,179
my god that makes perfect sense and

1666
01:20:59,390 --> 01:20:57,380
finally we have some answers about

1667
01:21:03,260 --> 01:20:59,400
telepathic communication about

1668
01:21:06,589 --> 01:21:03,270
teleportation about how the UFOs appear

1669
01:21:10,370 --> 01:21:06,599
why they appear the way they do why they

1670
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:10,380
appear where they appear why they appear

1671
01:21:16,189 --> 01:21:13,050
and disappear all of these questions

1672
01:21:20,780 --> 01:21:16,199
that people just kind of watch keep

1673
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:20,790
asking but can never figure out so yeah

1674
01:21:26,510 --> 01:21:22,770
I mean it's not about giving it away I

1675
01:21:29,629 --> 01:21:26,520
wanted to just share everything that I

1676
01:21:30,979 --> 01:21:29,639
knew and this is going to be a series of

1677
01:21:34,970 --> 01:21:30,989
course we're going to go deeper and

1678
01:21:37,609 --> 01:21:34,980
deeper and deeper into this see I'm

1679
01:21:44,359 --> 01:21:37,619
watching everybody here respond to this

1680
01:21:48,290 --> 01:21:44,369
conversation in Twitter I I have built

1681
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:48,300
this up yes and and and I am telling you

1682
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:50,610
that there are conclusions in this

1683
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:51,570
documentary the

1684
01:21:58,540 --> 01:21:55,050
I have never seen anything like this put

1685
01:22:02,540 --> 01:21:58,550
together in a film before too much of

1686
01:22:05,780 --> 01:22:02,550
this kind of thing is leaving you

1687
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:05,790
unsatisfied right and that's you know

1688
01:22:09,530 --> 01:22:07,770
you get to yeah like okay yeah that was

1689
01:22:12,109 --> 01:22:09,540
that was fun for a minute but you know

1690
01:22:14,180 --> 01:22:12,119
I've seen this before that's not what

1691
01:22:17,300 --> 01:22:14,190
happens in this film everybody you need

1692
01:22:20,450 --> 01:22:17,310
to be patient go to contact in the

1693
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:20,460
desert yeah contact in the desert it's a

1694
01:22:25,819 --> 01:22:22,290
farewell you know I just finished it

1695
01:22:28,669 --> 01:22:25,829
literally like three weeks ago so so

1696
01:22:30,470 --> 01:22:28,679
it's amazing that we are already you

1697
01:22:32,030 --> 01:22:30,480
know going to be showing it the contact

1698
01:22:34,339 --> 01:22:32,040
in the desert that's around the corner

1699
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:34,349
that's in two weeks and definitely for

1700
01:22:38,359 --> 01:22:36,210
the folks on the East Coast in New York

1701
01:22:39,770 --> 01:22:38,369
we're going to be showing it there for

1702
01:22:41,450 --> 01:22:39,780
the folks in Europe we're going to be

1703
01:22:43,850 --> 01:22:41,460
showing it in the Netherland so I mean

1704
01:22:46,939 --> 01:22:43,860
we are showing it as quickly as possible

1705
01:22:49,879 --> 01:22:46,949
and we are also a track we've attracted

1706
01:22:51,890 --> 01:22:49,889
some very very interesting distributors

1707
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:51,900
so it's going to be also on all the

1708
01:22:57,229 --> 01:22:55,170
platforms pretty soon you know for

1709
01:22:59,030 --> 01:22:57,239
downloads and to watch online but not

1710
01:23:02,120 --> 01:22:59,040
quite yet first we got to get through

1711
01:23:03,350 --> 01:23:02,130
these screenings and and it takes for

1712
01:23:05,750 --> 01:23:03,360
people to I don't know if people

1713
01:23:08,330 --> 01:23:05,760
understand the process but it takes some

1714
01:23:12,229 --> 01:23:08,340
time to prepare the film to for the

1715
01:23:15,020 --> 01:23:12,239
different platforms so we are working on

1716
01:23:17,060 --> 01:23:15,030
that right now so it's definitely going

1717
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:17,070
to be version and one of the things that

1718
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:19,530
I wanted to ask you when we talk about

1719
01:23:28,490 --> 01:23:23,090
this kind of communication do you think

1720
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:28,500
that it is inside of us or is this

1721
01:23:36,729 --> 01:23:33,290
communication external you mean the

1722
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:36,739
Pathak communication yeah well yeah yeah

1723
01:23:42,770 --> 01:23:39,690
you know because we are always you

1724
01:23:44,810 --> 01:23:42,780
reference to very well in this film but

1725
01:23:48,740 --> 01:23:44,820
also in previous films of yours about

1726
01:23:50,750 --> 01:23:48,750
frequencies and about colors and and and

1727
01:23:53,899 --> 01:23:50,760
getting this communication at different

1728
01:23:56,540 --> 01:23:53,909
frequencies but is it outside of us or

1729
01:23:59,290 --> 01:23:56,550
is this something that is inside and do

1730
01:24:01,390 --> 01:23:59,300
all of this habit you know it's

1731
01:24:03,530 --> 01:24:01,400
everything is on a cellular level

1732
01:24:05,690 --> 01:24:03,540
everything already exists within

1733
01:24:08,900 --> 01:24:05,700
yourselves and so

1734
01:24:11,660 --> 01:24:08,910
the idea is that we are not trained we

1735
01:24:14,930 --> 01:24:11,670
are not taught to use our brains

1736
01:24:17,930 --> 01:24:14,940
properly to retrieve that information to

1737
01:24:21,830 --> 01:24:17,940
use that tool like that is for example

1738
01:24:24,500 --> 01:24:21,840
so I talked about in my classes and

1739
01:24:27,590 --> 01:24:24,510
workshops as well about the 10% capacity

1740
01:24:30,440 --> 01:24:27,600
brain and the full brain capacity so

1741
01:24:33,530 --> 01:24:30,450
right now people think that you first

1742
01:24:36,470 --> 01:24:33,540
have to have 10% brain capacity and then

1743
01:24:38,690 --> 01:24:36,480
you increase it to 20% and 30% like

1744
01:24:42,650 --> 01:24:38,700
linearly you get better and better it

1745
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:42,660
doesn't work this way you actually can

1746
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:46,290
transfer from 10% capacity brain

1747
01:24:52,100 --> 01:24:48,570
capacity directly into a hundred percent

1748
01:24:54,770 --> 01:24:52,110
brain capacity there is a process that

1749
01:24:57,380 --> 01:24:54,780
you learn that allows you to go directly

1750
01:24:59,390 --> 01:24:57,390
to 100 percent capacity and yes you

1751
01:25:02,270 --> 01:24:59,400
that's the way you're supposed to be you

1752
01:25:04,130 --> 01:25:02,280
don't explode you don't disappear not

1753
01:25:08,090 --> 01:25:04,140
like the films or something like that

1754
01:25:10,580 --> 01:25:08,100
for it is an organic mechanism that we

1755
01:25:13,550 --> 01:25:10,590
are equipped with and we are supposed to

1756
01:25:16,610 --> 01:25:13,560
utilize and if we know how to do that

1757
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:16,620
then we are tapping into our cellular

1758
01:25:23,090 --> 01:25:18,930
intelligence and within our cellular

1759
01:25:25,790 --> 01:25:23,100
intelligence is alongside the human DNA

1760
01:25:29,300 --> 01:25:25,800
that makes you tall short blonde blue

1761
01:25:33,140 --> 01:25:29,310
eyes or whatever there's also a divine

1762
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:33,150
DNA another part of the DNA that has a

1763
01:25:38,860 --> 01:25:34,770
different shape a different frequency

1764
01:25:41,060 --> 01:25:38,870
that allows you to tap directly into the

1765
01:25:45,500 --> 01:25:41,070
universal consciousness meaning the

1766
01:25:50,650 --> 01:25:45,510
universe universal knowledge everything

1767
01:25:52,970 --> 01:25:50,660
that is part of the universe is

1768
01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:52,980
accessible through your full brain

1769
01:25:59,330 --> 01:25:55,770
capacity so it is within us absolutely

1770
01:26:01,610 --> 01:25:59,340
now we're going to head to a break in

1771
01:26:05,230 --> 01:26:01,620
about one minute there is one other

1772
01:26:09,110 --> 01:26:05,240
aspect of the film that I was a little

1773
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:09,120
hesitant about but you do you approached

1774
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:11,370
it differently and that is crop circles

1775
01:26:16,130 --> 01:26:14,730
and so really quickly before we head to

1776
01:26:17,540 --> 01:26:16,140
the break because we'll come back and

1777
01:26:18,620 --> 01:26:17,550
talk about some other people that appear

1778
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:18,630
in the film

1779
01:26:24,110 --> 01:26:21,930
that take on crop circles for you if you

1780
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:24,120
can do it in 60 seconds where did that

1781
01:26:29,390 --> 01:26:27,210
come from actually I wasn't planning on

1782
01:26:31,790 --> 01:26:29,400
doing that at all I was uh it just

1783
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:31,800
happened because I wanted to speak with

1784
01:26:38,390 --> 01:26:34,970
Barbara Lam about her experiences and

1785
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:38,400
with contactees and she happened to be

1786
01:26:44,090 --> 01:26:41,010
in the UK while I was there and she was

1787
01:26:45,740 --> 01:26:44,100
going to go to a crop circle so that's

1788
01:26:49,970 --> 01:26:45,750
how it kind of happened spontaneously

1789
01:26:53,060 --> 01:26:49,980
and while we were there I had a you know

1790
01:26:54,710 --> 01:26:53,070
the drone cameraman and we said oh my

1791
01:26:56,450 --> 01:26:54,720
god this we need to do something with

1792
01:26:59,020 --> 01:26:56,460
that and it just happened spontaneously

1793
01:27:02,030 --> 01:26:59,030
and I realized this is crazy because

1794
01:27:04,310 --> 01:27:02,040
crop circles are part of the contact

1795
01:27:07,700 --> 01:27:04,320
phenomenon we have to include it but the

1796
01:27:09,820 --> 01:27:07,710
way I did it as you said it is different

1797
01:27:12,620 --> 01:27:09,830
I you know it was more about

1798
01:27:15,260 --> 01:27:12,630
understanding I went into a crop circle

1799
01:27:21,020 --> 01:27:15,270
I mean my experience was completely

1800
01:27:22,670 --> 01:27:21,030
different and so that I realized was

1801
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:22,680
very important to include in the film

1802
01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:25,170
that it's not just about oh it's a

1803
01:27:32,210 --> 01:27:28,290
man-made human-made or et made the crop

1804
01:27:36,230 --> 01:27:32,220
circle but what the codes are about in

1805
01:27:38,570 --> 01:27:36,240
the crop circle but also that you can

1806
01:27:41,030 --> 01:27:38,580
discern for yourself some of the

1807
01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:41,040
intelligence in the crop circle is not

1808
01:27:45,170 --> 01:27:43,290
what we think it is so that was the

1809
01:27:48,650 --> 01:27:45,180
message that I wanted to include for

1810
01:27:50,930 --> 01:27:48,660
sure and a very very or I got to take a

1811
01:27:53,390 --> 01:27:50,940
break right here a very cool crop circle

1812
01:27:54,230 --> 01:27:53,400
by the way yeah that was that was pretty

1813
01:27:56,450 --> 01:27:54,240
trippy

1814
01:27:58,910 --> 01:27:56,460
all right our guest tonight Caroline

1815
01:28:00,040 --> 01:27:58,920
Khoury her new film gods among us and

1816
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:00,050
we're going to continue the conversation

1817
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:02,730
right after this short break stay with

1818
01:28:18,900 --> 01:28:03,410
us

1819
01:28:25,140 --> 01:28:22,110
way out here we missing - Jimmy Church

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Caroline Korey talking about her new

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film gods among us and I keep talking

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about this cast of characters that

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you've assembled here I've got to talk

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about Glenn Rhine what I mean every word

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right he had me he had me Glenn Ryan

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tell us about him and who he is

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Glenn is amazing he's actually trained

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as a neuroscientist but he's also a

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quantum biologist and so he has been on

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the cutting edge of biology microbiology

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and he's very interested in the study of

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consciousness how consciousness actually

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changes or affect physical reality and

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so he's been working on things like

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water how consciousness affects water

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with intent and things like that which

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you've heard before that's how he

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started let's say focusing on that sort

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of thing but by the time I found him and

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we started discussing okay what can we

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do here in this film to show to prove

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scientifically that there is contact

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that happens not only that but what does

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this contact do to the human body to the

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human DNA so we came up with these

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experiments which actually he had never

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done in this way like I said even with

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Beverly Rubik as well they had worked

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with healers for example where you would

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just focus you

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intent that you're healing something

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you're projecting healing energy and

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then you see how the water changes its

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molecular structure or what have you but

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what we wanted to do is to see how we

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could affect one in one of the

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experiments the conductivity of the DNA

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so he worked with DNA samples from women

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placenta so it so it is a human DNA

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sample and what we've done is he would

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use electrodes and just do some

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measurement of the electrical the

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electricity going through it if you will

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the before and after so before we

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treated it he would measure the

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conductivity and then after I would

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treat it he would measure it again and

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then we would see the difference if an

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entity came in contact with that sample

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what would happen and so it turned out

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in one of the experiments that the

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conductivity in the DNA sample ink

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please step 400% after it came in

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contact with an invisible entity and for

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people who don't know the increasing the

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conductivity in a DNA tissue allows it

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to repair itself basically increases its

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ability to repair itself in other words

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to heal itself so this these studies

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have been done before people can Google

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that but what we've done is to

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demonstrate it scientifically so you

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know it so Glenn also was blown away how

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quickly these things were happening we

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would just be bringing the that entity

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and then he would just be measuring it

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and just kind of things were showing up

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so he was so excited about that but this

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has been his work and also the way he

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understands consciousness and DNA is

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just amazing because even though he is a

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scientist I mean trained like

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a typical scientists at Stanford and

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University of London and things like

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that but he I think even we push to him

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to the limit with these experiments as

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well and he explained something very

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interesting that the DNA which is

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usually two strands that people think of

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the DNA as two strands well he said that

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when we do these sorts of experiments

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the DNA changes its shape it becomes

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toroidal which is very interesting

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because for people to understand the

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shape of the torus it it's a turmoil

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it's a coil as opposed to acne right

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right imagine imagine that your DNA when

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you raise the conductivity and you raise

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the frequency it literally changes its

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shape and when it becomes a toroidal

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shape a torus you then are able to bring

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down higher dimensional realities into

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your DNA inside your DNA so I mean I'm

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simplifying this I'm just kind of coming

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to the conclusion but he's actually been

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able to demonstrate that and these are

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the types of experiments that we've done

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which is mind-blowing I mean nobody's

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doing that sort of stuff yeah and it's

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on John camera and I want everybody to

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understand there are some moments here

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through a couple of these experiments

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01:37:54,330 --> 01:37:51,400
where you when you're watching these

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01:37:57,120 --> 01:37:54,340
scientists have their minds blown and

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01:37:58,979 --> 01:37:57,130
and it's happening on campus it's it's a

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01:38:02,070 --> 01:37:58,989
pretty trippy thing to go through I mean

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I was I was just astounded that that

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these things were happening and and in

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such a positive way was it Glenn that

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was it Glenn that mentioned the altering

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of DNA could have only happened from

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01:38:17,820 --> 01:38:16,120
somebody that it would that it couldn't

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01:38:21,300 --> 01:38:17,830
happen naturally was that Glenn's

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01:38:23,250 --> 01:38:21,310
comment yeah exactly he said well

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because he's measured like we measure it

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up before the control sample is measured

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like 15 different top right right and

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it's actually yeah and it so there's

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also a database of all the different

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01:38:40,530 --> 01:38:38,430
samples that were taken the different

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01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:40,540
what what happened in the previous

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01:38:45,510 --> 01:38:42,850
samples I mean it's a whole scientific

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01:38:47,580 --> 01:38:45,520
study it wasn't it's not something that

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01:38:50,700 --> 01:38:47,590
was casually done this was a serious

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01:38:54,180 --> 01:38:50,710
scientific experiment and so when you do

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01:38:56,520 --> 01:38:54,190
that then it's not an accident you know

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01:38:58,740 --> 01:38:56,530
and in fact that's what I wanted to do I

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said Glenn we can't go out there and

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01:39:02,070 --> 01:39:00,430
just to do it halfway and people are

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01:39:05,660 --> 01:39:02,080
going to say well maybe this was a fluke

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right right no fluke because that's what

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01:39:10,650 --> 01:39:07,840
people are looking at some people are

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not going to we want to bring the truth

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01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:13,510
but in a real scientific way tangible

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01:39:19,650 --> 01:39:15,610
way although that's what the film is

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about not just talk and so I grilled him

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what questions I said how do I know this

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was not a fluke how do I know the other

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sample what is the database tell me

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01:39:32,610 --> 01:39:29,500
about the data I mean I grilled him with

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01:39:35,310 --> 01:39:32,620
these questions to make sure that this

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01:39:38,340 --> 01:39:35,320
was accurate information yeah and here's

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01:39:40,500 --> 01:39:38,350
his reaction to that again whenever

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01:39:43,110 --> 01:39:40,510
pretty watches the film I hope they have

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01:39:48,660 --> 01:39:43,120
the same same trip eNOS that I was going

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01:39:52,580 --> 01:39:48,670
through he uh he was comfortable in his

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01:39:55,680 --> 01:39:52,590
answers but he was uncomfortable with

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01:39:58,710 --> 01:39:55,690
having to say what he was saying because

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of the results of the experiment and

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01:40:04,290 --> 01:40:01,710
right yeah right right right and the

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01:40:06,350 --> 01:40:04,300
implication right right because it's

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01:40:09,510 --> 01:40:06,360
like wait a minute did we just

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01:40:13,970 --> 01:40:09,520
demonstrate that yes what is it happen

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01:40:17,340 --> 01:40:13,980
and and is it that this then means that

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01:40:21,090 --> 01:40:17,350
you know entities are changing and I

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01:40:23,940 --> 01:40:21,100
mean it it's just like crazy so yeah and

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01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:23,950
in fact he said this is a scientific

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01:40:28,080 --> 01:40:25,570
discovery because it hasn't been done

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01:40:32,130 --> 01:40:28,090
before so what's very exciting is we got

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this on tape so it's in the film but

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what also you know I wanted to share

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with you as well is that because of this

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now we are conducting more and more

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01:40:46,020 --> 01:40:41,680
experience or were planning

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01:40:48,570 --> 01:40:46,030
a series of experiments to go further

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01:40:51,780 --> 01:40:48,580
with that discovery and also for the

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next film in the next film so so that

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okay we didn't just demonstrate

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scientifically what happens when you

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come in contact with an invisible entity

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01:41:07,590 --> 01:41:04,270
but what if we could identify which

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entity it is right frequency zero that

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means oh wow we're talking wow I mean

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like so many different ways we can go

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01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:15,790
into this scientifically so it's

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becoming very very exciting but yeah his

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01:41:23,310 --> 01:41:21,880
reaction was amazing well he's got peers

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that are going to be you know he's got

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01:41:28,140 --> 01:41:24,970
friends that are going to be watching

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01:41:32,520 --> 01:41:28,150
this film and he needs to be accurate in

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what he is is not only producing as far

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01:41:39,270 --> 01:41:35,110
as these tests go but how he presents it

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01:41:40,550 --> 01:41:39,280
he there there can be no errors no zone

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01:41:42,990 --> 01:41:40,560
for error here

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01:41:45,180 --> 01:41:43,000
reputations are in play not only for you

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01:41:48,390 --> 01:41:45,190
but for the documentary and for Glennon

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01:41:51,690 --> 01:41:48,400
and Harry and Beverly and and the others

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01:41:55,110 --> 01:41:51,700
that appear in the film yeah exactly and

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01:41:59,010 --> 01:41:55,120
so so what we're going to do is we're

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going to publish a scientific paper once

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01:42:03,570 --> 01:42:00,970
we're going to continue with phase 2 and

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01:42:05,670 --> 01:42:03,580
phase 3 of that experiment and then

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01:42:07,110 --> 01:42:05,680
publish a scientific paper so now we're

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talking some serious

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01:42:13,020 --> 01:42:10,360
I mean acknowledgement even from

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01:42:13,590 --> 01:42:13,030
mainstream science so it's very very

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01:42:16,740 --> 01:42:13,600
exciting

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01:42:19,890 --> 01:42:16,750
now you mentioned black holes earlier

2098
01:42:22,680 --> 01:42:19,900
now again for everybody yes this was

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01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:22,690
discussed in the film I want you to

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01:42:30,480 --> 01:42:25,690
expand on that and and and and how that

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01:42:32,670 --> 01:42:30,490
was presented so I actually understood

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01:42:36,120 --> 01:42:32,680
the meaning and the significance of

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01:42:38,220 --> 01:42:36,130
black holes myself at a very young age I

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01:42:40,410 --> 01:42:38,230
could because I could tap into that

2105
01:42:43,290 --> 01:42:40,420
consciousness if you will and see what

2106
01:42:45,540 --> 01:42:43,300
happens at a black hole but in the film

2107
01:42:50,150 --> 01:42:45,550
again I wanted to bring the physics of

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01:42:54,090 --> 01:42:50,160
that and how that is part of

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01:42:55,260 --> 01:42:54,100
consciousness that is that could be part

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01:42:57,630 --> 01:42:55,270
of an answer

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01:43:02,160 --> 01:42:57,640
early answer to telepathic communication

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01:43:05,460 --> 01:43:02,170
to teleportation to UFOs and so that's

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01:43:10,890 --> 01:43:05,470
why I really wanted to have dr. shield

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01:43:14,280 --> 01:43:10,900
who is an expert from Harvard on expert

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01:43:16,520 --> 01:43:14,290
on black holes and he actually explains

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in the film from a physics standpoint

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01:43:27,660 --> 01:43:20,800
how the surface of the black hole can

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actually store information and because

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of the structure of space has black

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holes within it which is actually this

2121
01:43:40,170 --> 01:43:36,220
is my work actually that I put together

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01:43:43,800 --> 01:43:40,180
with him because the black holes are

2123
01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:43,810
part of the fabric of space then if the

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01:43:48,630 --> 01:43:45,610
information that I have in my brain

2125
01:43:51,050 --> 01:43:48,640
let's say is transferred and is stored

2126
01:43:54,480 --> 01:43:51,060
on the surface of the black hole and

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01:43:57,300 --> 01:43:54,490
black holes are through resonance are

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01:44:01,440 --> 01:43:57,310
exist and talk to each other pretty much

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01:44:04,890 --> 01:44:01,450
throughout the fabric 12 space well then

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01:44:08,070 --> 01:44:04,900
all the black holes have you can

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01:44:11,550 --> 01:44:08,080
retrieve that information from any black

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01:44:14,220 --> 01:44:11,560
hole in any point in time or space in

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01:44:16,740 --> 01:44:14,230
other words if I'm standing right here

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and I'm let's say projecting a thought

2135
01:44:22,500 --> 01:44:19,510
again we're simplifying here but and

2136
01:44:26,040 --> 01:44:22,510
summarizing but just to give an idea so

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my thought the particles of energy that

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we call thoughts are being stored on a

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01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:33,430
black hole that's near my geographical

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01:44:38,430 --> 01:44:36,010
area wherever I am right now let's am in

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01:44:40,620 --> 01:44:38,440
Los Angeles right and you are

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01:44:42,660 --> 01:44:40,630
across town somewhere else but there's

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01:44:45,360 --> 01:44:42,670
another black hole right above you right

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01:44:46,980 --> 01:44:45,370
above your house because that is the

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01:44:49,650 --> 01:44:46,990
structure of space there's black holes

2146
01:44:51,540 --> 01:44:49,660
everywhere well you can retrieve that

2147
01:44:54,540 --> 01:44:51,550
information because my black hole your

2148
01:44:56,490 --> 01:44:54,550
black hole our resonant and that's

2149
01:44:59,220 --> 01:44:56,500
instant communication that's how it

2150
01:45:01,950 --> 01:44:59,230
works and this is brought up in the film

2151
01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:01,960
and it is it's brilliant how its

2152
01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:06,730
presented but the the ideas of quantum

2153
01:45:09,300 --> 01:45:08,650
theory quantum entanglement that being

2154
01:45:12,270 --> 01:45:09,310
instant

2155
01:45:15,030 --> 01:45:12,280
at the atomic level and that thought

2156
01:45:17,250 --> 01:45:15,040
because of all of this and the way that

2157
01:45:18,600 --> 01:45:17,260
it's presented thought is instantaneous

2158
01:45:22,860 --> 01:45:18,610
we're not talking about the speed of

2159
01:45:26,160 --> 01:45:22,870
light here we are talking about the same

2160
01:45:27,630 --> 01:45:26,170
time and the way that it's presented in

2161
01:45:30,810 --> 01:45:27,640
the film I don't want to give it away

2162
01:45:34,920 --> 01:45:30,820
but can you explain that somewhat how

2163
01:45:38,070 --> 01:45:34,930
its presented yeah so so I give you know

2164
01:45:40,710 --> 01:45:38,080
one example was Edgar Mitchell when he

2165
01:45:42,870 --> 01:45:40,720
was on the moon and you know there was

2166
01:45:46,290 --> 01:45:42,880
experiments made there but basically

2167
01:45:48,720 --> 01:45:46,300
yeah like I just said that they did an

2168
01:45:52,740 --> 01:45:48,730
experiment and they realized that that

2169
01:45:55,470 --> 01:45:52,750
transfer of thought from one point in

2170
01:45:57,480 --> 01:45:55,480
space to another was instantaneous

2171
01:46:01,020 --> 01:45:57,490
meaning faster than the speed of light

2172
01:46:04,230 --> 01:46:01,030
so so that was an experiment that was

2173
01:46:07,830 --> 01:46:04,240
done and he was been able to explain it

2174
01:46:09,780 --> 01:46:07,840
from a physics standpoint okay let me

2175
01:46:14,520 --> 01:46:09,790
jump in right there

2176
01:46:18,210 --> 01:46:14,530
maybe because is what they expected with

2177
01:46:20,430 --> 01:46:18,220
Edgar Mitchell was eight seconds four

2178
01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:20,440
seconds there four seconds back that's

2179
01:46:25,320 --> 01:46:23,530
that's the important point here and this

2180
01:46:29,880 --> 01:46:25,330
this experiment has been talked about

2181
01:46:34,740 --> 01:46:29,890
over the years a lot and it wasn't eight

2182
01:46:36,810 --> 01:46:34,750
seconds was it no it was passing faster

2183
01:46:40,460 --> 01:46:36,820
than the speed of it was four seconds

2184
01:46:42,870 --> 01:46:40,470
meaning that the the the the

2185
01:46:45,180 --> 01:46:42,880
transmission was a radio transmitter

2186
01:46:48,330 --> 01:46:45,190
that took four seconds but the thought

2187
01:46:49,890 --> 01:46:48,340
side of it was instantaneous they were

2188
01:46:51,750 --> 01:46:49,900
thinking it was going to be four seconds

2189
01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:51,760
they or four seconds back which would

2190
01:46:55,620 --> 01:46:53,770
have been cool anyway right that what

2191
01:46:57,840 --> 01:46:55,630
are they cool they would have been able

2192
01:47:02,850 --> 01:46:57,850
to prove it but that's not what happened

2193
01:47:07,740 --> 01:47:02,860
it was four seconds which said that the

2194
01:47:09,600 --> 01:47:07,750
thought side of it was BAM right

2195
01:47:13,290 --> 01:47:09,610
character than the speed of light just

2196
01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:13,300
think about that pretty yeah yeah it's

2197
01:47:21,240 --> 01:47:16,810
so it's amazing and again like because I

2198
01:47:22,800 --> 01:47:21,250
wanted to bring the signs not just talk

2199
01:47:24,960 --> 01:47:22,810
about the experiments but how does

2200
01:47:27,810 --> 01:47:24,970
it actually works and we did bring these

2201
01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:27,820
answers I mean we do have these answers

2202
01:47:33,180 --> 01:47:31,330
of how it were it works and now again

2203
01:47:35,220 --> 01:47:33,190
like I said so that's why this is going

2204
01:47:39,000 --> 01:47:35,230
to be a series because we've presented

2205
01:47:41,820 --> 01:47:39,010
many tangible evidence of that and we

2206
01:47:44,160 --> 01:47:41,830
did some on camera experiments with the

2207
01:47:47,630 --> 01:47:44,170
results right there but there's there's

2208
01:47:50,550 --> 01:47:47,640
more areas of course we're going to go

2209
01:47:52,680 --> 01:47:50,560
continue going deeper in the next film

2210
01:47:54,780 --> 01:47:52,690
in the next film as well and demonstrate

2211
01:47:57,930 --> 01:47:54,790
scientifically how all of these

2212
01:47:59,990 --> 01:47:57,940
phenomena are very much real nothing to

2213
01:48:03,900 --> 01:48:00,000
do with sci-fi nothing to do with

2214
01:48:09,470 --> 01:48:03,910
paranormal or metaphysical physics this

2215
01:48:12,510 --> 01:48:09,480
is physics how how do you manage to get

2216
01:48:16,800 --> 01:48:12,520
somebody from Harvard to appear in a

2217
01:48:18,900 --> 01:48:16,810
film like this yeah you know I actually

2218
01:48:21,720 --> 01:48:18,910
like I said I was looking for a specific

2219
01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:21,730
type of physicist and because there's a

2220
01:48:25,980 --> 01:48:24,010
lot of quantum physicists out there you

2221
01:48:29,310 --> 01:48:25,990
can see them on TV and different shows

2222
01:48:31,530 --> 01:48:29,320
and things like that but I knew that it

2223
01:48:32,850 --> 01:48:31,540
needed to be somebody very specific and

2224
01:48:35,220 --> 01:48:32,860
like I said for the longest time we

2225
01:48:37,110 --> 01:48:35,230
couldn't get a hold of him because he

2226
01:48:40,130 --> 01:48:37,120
was travelling and sick or something you

2227
01:48:44,850 --> 01:48:40,140
know so anyway but eventually when I

2228
01:48:47,310 --> 01:48:44,860
spoke with him I told him what I had in

2229
01:48:50,640 --> 01:48:47,320
mind and I think he must have felt

2230
01:48:53,670 --> 01:48:50,650
something because he just wanted to do

2231
01:48:57,390 --> 01:48:53,680
it he wrote me right back like faster

2232
01:49:00,140 --> 01:48:57,400
than the speed of light even is like we

2233
01:49:03,120 --> 01:49:00,150
are so aligned we have to work together

2234
01:49:07,020 --> 01:49:03,130
call me immediately use my home number

2235
01:49:10,380 --> 01:49:07,030
and since then we've totally connected

2236
01:49:14,010 --> 01:49:10,390
and we've done as you know the interview

2237
01:49:17,780 --> 01:49:14,020
and all of that with him and since the

2238
01:49:22,110 --> 01:49:17,790
film actually now now this is another

2239
01:49:25,320 --> 01:49:22,120
massive discovery and what we're working

2240
01:49:29,820 --> 01:49:25,330
on together after the film is over which

2241
01:49:33,510 --> 01:49:29,830
is now we are working on mathematically

2242
01:49:35,929 --> 01:49:33,520
demonstrating how the structure of space

2243
01:49:39,500 --> 01:49:35,939
is configured

2244
01:49:41,719 --> 01:49:39,510
because of the work that I have done on

2245
01:49:45,640 --> 01:49:41,729
the planetary grid that I shared with

2246
01:49:49,250 --> 01:49:45,650
him and his knowledge of black hole

2247
01:49:52,909 --> 01:49:49,260
physics we're combining these two things

2248
01:49:56,959 --> 01:49:52,919
and we are kind of working on the math

2249
01:49:59,629 --> 01:49:56,969
the mathematical the algorithm and the

2250
01:50:03,259 --> 01:49:59,639
mathematical equations that demonstrate

2251
01:50:06,080 --> 01:50:03,269
the actual structuring and patterning of

2252
01:50:07,580 --> 01:50:06,090
space itself in consciousness

2253
01:50:12,020 --> 01:50:07,590
do you think that this is going to open

2254
01:50:14,299 --> 01:50:12,030
up for that well not only Harvard but

2255
01:50:16,429 --> 01:50:14,309
other colleges across the country that

2256
01:50:18,620 --> 01:50:16,439
they need to start to scientifically

2257
01:50:21,979 --> 01:50:18,630
look at this because there is something

2258
01:50:23,330 --> 01:50:21,989
going on and we need them yeah I mean

2259
01:50:26,089 --> 01:50:23,340
this could be the beginning but you know

2260
01:50:28,040 --> 01:50:26,099
he was the first one to say that he's

2261
01:50:31,219 --> 01:50:28,050
been struggling you know especially

2262
01:50:33,560 --> 01:50:31,229
being at Harvard struggling with his

2263
01:50:37,879 --> 01:50:33,570
peers nobody would believe him but he

2264
01:50:41,229 --> 01:50:37,889
also was the someone who was dragged

2265
01:50:44,989 --> 01:50:41,239
into this by John Mack from Harvard so

2266
01:50:47,560 --> 01:50:44,999
so he was exposed to it because of that

2267
01:50:50,779 --> 01:50:47,570
in a direct manner they were conducting

2268
01:50:52,879 --> 01:50:50,789
experiments together and so which was

2269
01:50:54,429 --> 01:50:52,889
interesting it's kind of his past you

2270
01:50:57,799 --> 01:50:54,439
know already took him in that direction

2271
01:51:01,850 --> 01:50:57,809
at a young age in Harvard but he tells

2272
01:51:05,120 --> 01:51:01,860
me that up until today the majority of

2273
01:51:09,109 --> 01:51:05,130
the scientists just won't listen but as

2274
01:51:11,540 --> 01:51:09,119
we begin to publish these papers and

2275
01:51:13,569 --> 01:51:11,550
show more films maybe eventually I mean

2276
01:51:16,189 --> 01:51:13,579
it's we're definitely on to something

2277
01:51:18,049 --> 01:51:16,199
very very real

2278
01:51:21,199 --> 01:51:18,059
I mean we're no longer just talking

2279
01:51:24,259 --> 01:51:21,209
theories here do you think that were you

2280
01:51:27,770 --> 01:51:24,269
able to find out did he or Harry or

2281
01:51:30,049 --> 01:51:27,780
Beverley or Glenn have they ever seen

2282
01:51:31,399 --> 01:51:30,059
anything strange in the sky do we have

2283
01:51:33,469 --> 01:51:31,409
that going for us

2284
01:51:35,449 --> 01:51:33,479
you know which is interesting yeah

2285
01:51:37,850 --> 01:51:35,459
because I asked them that question have

2286
01:51:41,020 --> 01:51:37,860
you seen any G have you because when you

2287
01:51:44,359 --> 01:51:41,030
hear them talk they are like I said

2288
01:51:47,120 --> 01:51:44,369
mentioning cosmic intelligence or in

2289
01:51:49,790 --> 01:51:47,130
cosmic you know ISO causing the cosmic

2290
01:51:52,160 --> 01:51:49,800
mind there's another one that we did

2291
01:51:53,450 --> 01:51:52,170
mention it was more common being rate

2292
01:51:56,360 --> 01:51:53,460
and I think more people are familiar

2293
01:51:58,910 --> 01:51:56,370
with his work but I am interviewing them

2294
01:52:01,550 --> 01:51:58,920
separately so they don't know what the

2295
01:52:03,530 --> 01:52:01,560
other scientist said right in each one

2296
01:52:06,050 --> 01:52:03,540
of them in the interview is talking

2297
01:52:08,390 --> 01:52:06,060
about the cosmic mind and the cosmic

2298
01:52:11,360 --> 01:52:08,400
intelligence like using the same words

2299
01:52:14,030 --> 01:52:11,370
and I'm saying wow I mean it's amazing

2300
01:52:18,080 --> 01:52:14,040
how they are starting to use that

2301
01:52:21,860 --> 01:52:18,090
vocabulary they are starting to tap into

2302
01:52:23,720 --> 01:52:21,870
that same type of information and then I

2303
01:52:26,510 --> 01:52:23,730
asked the question well have you so

2304
01:52:29,090 --> 01:52:26,520
there is very convinced they're talking

2305
01:52:31,220 --> 01:52:29,100
about it with passion and they are

2306
01:52:35,000 --> 01:52:31,230
researching it and totally into it like

2307
01:52:37,130 --> 01:52:35,010
I said like you said they wouldn't give

2308
01:52:39,200 --> 01:52:37,140
me the time of the day I mean how would

2309
01:52:40,670 --> 01:52:39,210
a scientist from Harvard you know why

2310
01:52:42,590 --> 01:52:40,680
would he want to get involved with

2311
01:52:44,390 --> 01:52:42,600
something like this right because they

2312
01:52:46,790 --> 01:52:44,400
truly believe it and they're truly

2313
01:52:48,680 --> 01:52:46,800
passionate about it and then when I ask

2314
01:52:52,430 --> 01:52:48,690
them the question well okay so have you

2315
01:52:56,110 --> 01:52:52,440
seen a meteor or UFO and none of them

2316
01:53:01,070 --> 01:52:56,120
have isn't that interesting well and and

2317
01:53:03,290 --> 01:53:01,080
it almost if it was me trying to contact

2318
01:53:05,320 --> 01:53:03,300
them even like to come on this show I

2319
01:53:09,260 --> 01:53:05,330
feel like I would have to mislead them

2320
01:53:11,510 --> 01:53:09,270
and have to fool them but they knew

2321
01:53:13,240 --> 01:53:11,520
exactly what what this film was about

2322
01:53:16,040 --> 01:53:13,250
and what they were getting into right

2323
01:53:18,530 --> 01:53:16,050
yeah of course and I couldn't I mean I

2324
01:53:20,450 --> 01:53:18,540
couldn't hide it because you have to do

2325
01:53:22,760 --> 01:53:20,460
it officially I mean they have to sign

2326
01:53:25,490 --> 01:53:22,770
release forms they have to know the

2327
01:53:27,230 --> 01:53:25,500
title of the film and what it's about

2328
01:53:29,300 --> 01:53:27,240
and where it's going to show you can

2329
01:53:30,980 --> 01:53:29,310
just like you know show up and say hey

2330
01:53:33,830 --> 01:53:30,990
would you do an interview it's very

2331
01:53:35,750 --> 01:53:33,840
official and in fact I couldn't release

2332
01:53:39,920 --> 01:53:35,760
the film in an official manner if I

2333
01:53:43,460 --> 01:53:39,930
didn't have that sort of very you know

2334
01:53:46,730 --> 01:53:43,470
standard legal and everything else so I

2335
01:53:49,190 --> 01:53:46,740
had to be very upfront and at the end of

2336
01:53:52,130 --> 01:53:49,200
the day I was like you know what if I if

2337
01:53:53,540 --> 01:53:52,140
I'm going to start to sugarcoat it and

2338
01:53:57,380 --> 01:53:53,550
make it sound this way or that way

2339
01:53:59,210 --> 01:53:57,390
that's not the truth and and then I'm

2340
01:54:01,880 --> 01:53:59,220
gonna what am I going to get I'm going

2341
01:54:03,270 --> 01:54:01,890
to get half of January right so I just

2342
01:54:05,430 --> 01:54:03,280
put it all out and I

2343
01:54:07,160 --> 01:54:05,440
that it is about this it's about

2344
01:54:09,779 --> 01:54:07,170
extraterrestrial contact but also

2345
01:54:12,180 --> 01:54:09,789
otherworldly intelligence basically how

2346
01:54:15,240 --> 01:54:12,190
humans come in contact with any sort of

2347
01:54:16,979 --> 01:54:15,250
MC and we're trying to prove the

2348
01:54:20,000 --> 01:54:16,989
existence of that or the truth of that

2349
01:54:24,180 --> 01:54:20,010
of the signs of that and none of them

2350
01:54:28,620 --> 01:54:24,190
said no detail what do you think that

2351
01:54:30,540 --> 01:54:28,630
it's because of quantum mechanics and

2352
01:54:33,709 --> 01:54:30,550
quantum theory and the many worlds

2353
01:54:37,290 --> 01:54:33,719
theory and infinite parallel worlds that

2354
01:54:39,359 --> 01:54:37,300
scientifically is being proven right now

2355
01:54:42,270 --> 01:54:39,369
and is being utilized in the computer

2356
01:54:44,600 --> 01:54:42,280
industry that it allows them to be more

2357
01:54:47,729 --> 01:54:44,610
comfortable to come out of the zone

2358
01:54:49,859 --> 01:54:47,739
because they know that they're not going

2359
01:54:53,390 --> 01:54:49,869
to be ridiculed because scientifically a

2360
01:54:56,549 --> 01:54:53,400
lot of this now has been proven that was

2361
01:54:58,379 --> 01:54:56,559
fantastical just ten years ago yeah

2362
01:55:00,000 --> 01:54:58,389
exactly I think they're getting a bit

2363
01:55:02,459 --> 01:55:00,010
more comfortable but honestly I think

2364
01:55:06,299 --> 01:55:02,469
they're the majority of the scientists

2365
01:55:08,819 --> 01:55:06,309
are still kind of not believing and

2366
01:55:10,229 --> 01:55:08,829
making it hard for them and I actually I

2367
01:55:13,379 --> 01:55:10,239
take that back because there are a

2368
01:55:15,930 --> 01:55:13,389
couple of other scientists that I wanted

2369
01:55:19,470 --> 01:55:15,940
to speak with and they were very

2370
01:55:21,779 --> 01:55:19,480
hesitant I mean they they were even

2371
01:55:23,819 --> 01:55:21,789
though they believed in it and they had

2372
01:55:26,310 --> 01:55:23,829
actually conducted experiments

2373
01:55:29,010 --> 01:55:26,320
themselves right but they were ready to

2374
01:55:32,220 --> 01:55:29,020
come out come out and you know I was

2375
01:55:34,290 --> 01:55:32,230
just warning the the folks that were

2376
01:55:38,850 --> 01:55:34,300
ready I wasn't going to you know waste

2377
01:55:44,129 --> 01:55:38,860
my time also so and we ended up as you

2378
01:55:46,770 --> 01:55:44,139
saw was brilliant folks from Harvard

2379
01:55:51,029 --> 01:55:46,780
Stanford and I mean very very high level

2380
01:55:54,479 --> 01:55:51,039
scientist it's so exciting because they

2381
01:55:56,580 --> 01:55:54,489
are so knowledgeable and yet they get so

2382
01:55:58,770 --> 01:55:56,590
excited when they do a we were

2383
01:56:00,629 --> 01:55:58,780
discovering that the paranormal is

2384
01:56:04,290 --> 01:56:00,639
actually normal and being demonstrated

2385
01:56:07,740 --> 01:56:04,300
scientifically it's just amazing to see

2386
01:56:10,470 --> 01:56:07,750
them react this way and be part of it

2387
01:56:13,049 --> 01:56:10,480
and want to do more what I'm going to

2388
01:56:15,299 --> 01:56:13,059
keep working with all of them yeah you

2389
01:56:16,569 --> 01:56:15,309
did a little 40 in slip there you know

2390
01:56:18,310 --> 01:56:16,579
about them coming

2391
01:56:22,149 --> 01:56:18,320
out right you're coming out of the

2392
01:56:24,870 --> 01:56:22,159
closet but once they do all hell breaks

2393
01:56:28,149 --> 01:56:24,880
loose right because now they're free

2394
01:56:32,709 --> 01:56:28,159
exactly exactly and and I think those

2395
01:56:35,740 --> 01:56:32,719
who were ready felt amazing like it was

2396
01:56:37,839 --> 01:56:35,750
kind of like relief finally I said it

2397
01:56:40,600 --> 01:56:37,849
that's it right right right I totally

2398
01:56:43,569 --> 01:56:40,610
got that from blend well and I want to

2399
01:56:45,760 --> 01:56:43,579
talk about Harry Beverly we've kind of

2400
01:56:48,010 --> 01:56:45,770
ignored them a little bit and then we'll

2401
01:56:51,450 --> 01:56:48,020
jump around and and I've got to talk

2402
01:56:54,490 --> 01:56:51,460
about Mary because she was absolutely

2403
01:56:56,080 --> 01:56:54,500
fantastically brilliant in this film so

2404
01:56:58,240 --> 01:56:56,090
let's take a break right here this is

2405
01:57:00,490 --> 01:56:58,250
fade to black our guest tonight Caroline

2406
01:57:02,799 --> 01:57:00,500
Corey yes we are talking about her new

2407
01:57:04,870 --> 01:57:02,809
film documentary it's called gods among

2408
01:57:06,669 --> 01:57:04,880
us you can see the trailers and

2409
01:57:09,430 --> 01:57:06,679
everything we've got the links up right

2410
01:57:12,250 --> 01:57:09,440
now in Twitter and on our website

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all right welcome back getting a couple

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of quick tweets in you can follow me on

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at omnium universe i think you can also

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do caroline cory it will pop right up

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f2b is where it is at that is the

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sandbox talking to Caroline Cory tonight

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part of our Amazon amazing women we you

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02:01:28,710 --> 02:01:25,840
know I just did a talk about a 40 inch

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lip there is a an amazing movie out

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there that nobody's ever heard of it's

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called Amazon women on the moon right

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and it's a comedy and it's brilliantly

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02:01:41,430 --> 02:01:38,950
done and it's fantastic all the stars

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02:01:43,200 --> 02:01:41,440
from the 80s are in it and it's like 10

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02:01:44,760 --> 02:01:43,210
different directors do 10 little

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vignettes and they piece them together

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and they manage to make a movie out of

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02:01:54,150 --> 02:01:51,310
it but it's just somebody I just I just

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02:01:56,430 --> 02:01:54,160
said that part of our Amazon women on

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02:01:59,100 --> 02:01:56,440
the moon week is what almost came out of

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MoMA our amazing women week our guest

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02:02:02,820 --> 02:02:00,640
tonight Caroline Corey we're talking

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02:02:06,540 --> 02:02:02,830
about her new film and it's called gods

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02:02:12,200 --> 02:02:06,550
among us and the film is about the

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02:02:15,960 --> 02:02:12,210
scientific proving of communication with

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02:02:19,680 --> 02:02:15,970
with with et and there's no other way to

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02:02:23,940 --> 02:02:19,690
put it than just that and she has put

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02:02:26,670 --> 02:02:23,950
together not only a great scientific

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02:02:29,130 --> 02:02:26,680
team behind this and some of the

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02:02:31,620 --> 02:02:29,140
researchers that have been doing this

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02:02:33,660 --> 02:02:31,630
over the years but also a couple of new

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02:02:35,670 --> 02:02:33,670
contactees that we've never heard from

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02:02:40,320 --> 02:02:35,680
before and that and we spoke about them

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02:02:42,030 --> 02:02:40,330
Zak and Antonio - 19 year-old young men

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02:02:44,540 --> 02:02:42,040
I'm not going to say kids anymore I'm

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02:02:47,610 --> 02:02:44,550
going to say young men that are

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02:02:49,260 --> 02:02:47,620
absolutely amazing in a big central part

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02:02:52,230 --> 02:02:49,270
of this film so that's what we're

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02:02:55,920 --> 02:02:52,240
talking about tonight and I want to move

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02:03:00,150 --> 02:02:55,930
on to Mary Rodwell Mary is somebody that

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02:03:04,020 --> 02:03:00,160
we all know and love but her part in

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02:03:05,340 --> 02:03:04,030
this film is is central it's absolutely

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02:03:07,710 --> 02:03:05,350
central

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02:03:10,860 --> 02:03:07,720
and she spoke she's she's always

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02:03:13,080 --> 02:03:10,870
well-spoken but she spoke on subjects

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02:03:16,260 --> 02:03:13,090
and certain things that I've never heard

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02:03:19,260 --> 02:03:16,270
her speak about before and again was

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02:03:22,710 --> 02:03:19,270
this was this talked about in advance or

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02:03:26,250 --> 02:03:22,720
did this just happen on film everything

2538
02:03:29,070 --> 02:03:26,260
was pretty spontaneous I think we were

2539
02:03:31,620 --> 02:03:29,080
guided as well I mean I had an idea the

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02:03:34,020 --> 02:03:31,630
types of questions I wanted to ask but

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02:03:36,300 --> 02:03:34,030
what she was going to say where she was

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02:03:38,220 --> 02:03:36,310
going with the answer we didn't know we

2543
02:03:41,420 --> 02:03:38,230
just kind of went with it and that's

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02:03:44,640 --> 02:03:41,430
part of documentary filmmaking is

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02:03:46,560 --> 02:03:44,650
sometimes the the person brings up it's

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02:03:50,310 --> 02:03:46,570
because it's unscripted as you know it's

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02:03:52,410 --> 02:03:50,320
not rehearsed and so you know it could

2548
02:03:55,890 --> 02:03:52,420
go in so many different directions but I

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02:03:58,290 --> 02:03:55,900
think we were really guided I mean

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02:04:01,860 --> 02:03:58,300
something was happening also on the set

2551
02:04:06,210 --> 02:04:01,870
the energy was extraordinary I mean we

2552
02:04:08,460 --> 02:04:06,220
could feel a very high vibration all

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02:04:10,800 --> 02:04:08,470
around us and we could feel that the

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02:04:12,750 --> 02:04:10,810
information that was coming out the

2555
02:04:16,110 --> 02:04:12,760
results of the experiments what the

2556
02:04:19,500 --> 02:04:16,120
scientists were saying I mean it was it

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02:04:21,480 --> 02:04:19,510
was just very divinely guided I want to

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02:04:24,660 --> 02:04:21,490
say so it's all the stuff yeah she's

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02:04:27,000 --> 02:04:24,670
amazing I love her she's great and how

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02:04:28,860 --> 02:04:27,010
about some behind the scenes stuff with

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02:04:32,850 --> 02:04:28,870
Mary did you have a chance to sit down

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02:04:35,310 --> 02:04:32,860
and and talk with her candidly actually

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02:04:38,490 --> 02:04:35,320
we didn't because is she I caught her

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02:04:41,580 --> 02:04:38,500
while she was in Los Angeles and so she

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02:04:44,160 --> 02:04:41,590
was between two something presentations

2566
02:04:47,310 --> 02:04:44,170
or something so we brought her to the

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02:04:49,560 --> 02:04:47,320
studio just to film that and so we had a

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02:04:51,570 --> 02:04:49,570
few conversation while the camera was

2569
02:04:55,170 --> 02:04:51,580
sitting up the light and things like

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02:04:57,120 --> 02:04:55,180
that but nothing too you know profound

2571
02:04:59,490 --> 02:04:57,130
or anything like that it was very casual

2572
02:05:02,040 --> 02:04:59,500
but you know she's kind of like back and

2573
02:05:05,730 --> 02:05:02,050
it's in the way that on camera or off

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02:05:10,470 --> 02:05:05,740
camera she is so powerful and beautiful

2575
02:05:12,240 --> 02:05:10,480
and so positive and that's what I love

2576
02:05:15,360 --> 02:05:12,250
about her that's what I like about this

2577
02:05:18,410 --> 02:05:15,370
film is that we are really talking about

2578
02:05:21,169 --> 02:05:18,420
the other us

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02:05:24,860 --> 02:05:21,179
of et contact that's not really well

2580
02:05:26,780 --> 02:05:24,870
talked about you know the knot that is

2581
02:05:31,820 --> 02:05:26,790
deposited that they're here to help us

2582
02:05:35,060 --> 02:05:31,830
but more for example and in her case she

2583
02:05:38,660 --> 02:05:35,070
also works a lot with the parents of

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02:05:43,270 --> 02:05:38,670
young children and she is starting to

2585
02:05:47,060 --> 02:05:43,280
see these kids come out and talk of

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02:05:49,760 --> 02:05:47,070
galactic languages and and write all

2587
02:05:53,780 --> 02:05:49,770
sorts of star languages and things like

2588
02:05:56,270 --> 02:05:53,790
that so she is she is going with that

2589
02:06:00,220 --> 02:05:56,280
experience as well and I think that's

2590
02:06:04,280 --> 02:06:00,230
what makes her so so interesting and

2591
02:06:07,640 --> 02:06:04,290
Barbara Lamb and she's great she's

2592
02:06:10,939 --> 02:06:07,650
absolutely great in the film and you

2593
02:06:13,669 --> 02:06:10,949
were in England with her right yeah I

2594
02:06:15,439 --> 02:06:13,679
happened to be in England while she was

2595
02:06:17,990 --> 02:06:15,449
there I was doing something else I went

2596
02:06:20,180 --> 02:06:18,000
to film something else and she happened

2597
02:06:21,890 --> 02:06:20,190
to be hit at that time and I thought

2598
02:06:23,930 --> 02:06:21,900
wait why are we going to go back to Los

2599
02:06:26,030 --> 02:06:23,940
Angeles and film it and a boring you

2600
02:06:28,189 --> 02:06:26,040
know office space or something or

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02:06:31,070 --> 02:06:28,199
someone's living room let's film it

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02:06:33,169 --> 02:06:31,080
while she's out there and while we're

2603
02:06:35,720 --> 02:06:33,179
doing the crop circle thing and so but

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02:06:38,660 --> 02:06:35,730
what I ended up using in the film as you

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02:06:40,490 --> 02:06:38,670
know was probably something that most

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02:06:41,930 --> 02:06:40,500
people don't know about Bob I mean I

2607
02:06:46,100 --> 02:06:41,940
don't know if she's talked about it a

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02:06:48,650 --> 02:06:46,110
lot but usually she thought she talks

2609
02:06:51,320 --> 02:06:48,660
about the crop circles themselves what

2610
02:06:54,410 --> 02:06:51,330
they mean and all her research but I

2611
02:06:57,950 --> 02:06:54,420
also wanted to bring in the film her

2612
02:07:01,729 --> 02:06:57,960
personal experience as a contactee as

2613
02:07:05,090 --> 02:07:01,739
well which is an amazing story I thought

2614
02:07:07,640 --> 02:07:05,100
and so it ties it all in with the crop

2615
02:07:09,560 --> 02:07:07,650
circle research as well I thought it was

2616
02:07:13,669 --> 02:07:09,570
kind of interesting as well

2617
02:07:15,979 --> 02:07:13,679
and then we have David Jacobs and right

2618
02:07:19,689 --> 02:07:15,989
now we have and David's great David's

2619
02:07:22,040 --> 02:07:19,699
great you know Mary's background and her

2620
02:07:25,669 --> 02:07:22,050
experience with all of this but goes

2621
02:07:30,279 --> 02:07:25,679
back so many years and and her

2622
02:07:32,859 --> 02:07:30,289
connections to other people are profound

2623
02:07:35,859 --> 02:07:32,869
Barbara's been researching contactees

2624
02:07:38,490 --> 02:07:35,869
and and crop circles and and so forth

2625
02:07:40,899 --> 02:07:38,500
for forever I have no idea how many

2626
02:07:43,990 --> 02:07:40,909
regression therapy she has done but it's

2627
02:07:47,009 --> 02:07:44,000
in the thousands right you know it is a

2628
02:07:49,390 --> 02:07:47,019
wealth of knowledge that is is is

2629
02:07:51,759 --> 02:07:49,400
something that we need to treasure and

2630
02:07:53,649 --> 02:07:51,769
tap into but we get the same thing with

2631
02:07:55,720 --> 02:07:53,659
David Jacobs - David's been doing this

2632
02:07:59,049 --> 02:07:55,730
absolutely forever going back to the

2633
02:08:03,189 --> 02:07:59,059
very beginning of all of the contactee

2634
02:08:05,350 --> 02:08:03,199
phenomenon and his his feelings have

2635
02:08:08,140 --> 02:08:05,360
changed over the years - as well he has

2636
02:08:12,419 --> 02:08:08,150
gone through different phases of of his

2637
02:08:15,189 --> 02:08:12,429
research and and his presentation again

2638
02:08:18,040 --> 02:08:15,199
was pretty pretty central to what this

2639
02:08:20,049 --> 02:08:18,050
film was about yeah absolutely and you

2640
02:08:22,270 --> 02:08:20,059
know I wanted to include him as well

2641
02:08:25,270 --> 02:08:22,280
first of all he's very eloquent he's

2642
02:08:27,729 --> 02:08:25,280
very well-spoken and as you said as well

2643
02:08:31,060 --> 02:08:27,739
he had so much experience with the

2644
02:08:34,000 --> 02:08:31,070
abduction so like how could you not

2645
02:08:37,750 --> 02:08:34,010
include him in a way because he explains

2646
02:08:40,330 --> 02:08:37,760
it so well and what mind-blowing is that

2647
02:08:42,669 --> 02:08:40,340
he worked with people from around the

2648
02:08:43,959 --> 02:08:42,679
world which I did as well and that's why

2649
02:08:45,750 --> 02:08:43,969
I thought it was interesting and I

2650
02:08:49,720 --> 02:08:45,760
wanted to include him because of that

2651
02:08:52,540 --> 02:08:49,730
when you have people who don't know each

2652
02:08:54,970 --> 02:08:52,550
other from all around the world never

2653
02:08:58,299 --> 02:08:54,980
met each other who are telling you the

2654
02:09:00,970 --> 02:08:58,309
exact same story it's pretty

2655
02:09:05,649 --> 02:09:00,980
mind-blowing I mean especially when the

2656
02:09:08,140 --> 02:09:05,659
story is out there and so so the way he

2657
02:09:10,600 --> 02:09:08,150
tells that story as well from his

2658
02:09:12,819 --> 02:09:10,610
perspective I thought you know we had to

2659
02:09:15,790 --> 02:09:12,829
include him he's got a wealth of

2660
02:09:19,810 --> 02:09:15,800
experience as well so and he was a good

2661
02:09:22,450 --> 02:09:19,820
balance with Mary and Barbara and

2662
02:09:25,240 --> 02:09:22,460
everyone else so I think he did a great

2663
02:09:27,069 --> 02:09:25,250
job now what your what your conclusions

2664
02:09:30,520 --> 02:09:27,079
now you've been doing this for so long

2665
02:09:33,759 --> 02:09:30,530
and you've just completed this film what

2666
02:09:35,560 --> 02:09:33,769
what is your conclusions about the

2667
02:09:37,120 --> 02:09:35,570
contact that is being made around the

2668
02:09:40,209 --> 02:09:37,130
world certainly when you you know you

2669
02:09:43,280 --> 02:09:40,219
meet with the Zack and Antonio from

2670
02:09:45,440 --> 02:09:43,290
another generation that is so far

2671
02:09:47,900 --> 02:09:45,450
remove from you and myself we'd like to

2672
02:09:52,280 --> 02:09:47,910
think that we're cool but but we're not

2673
02:09:53,720 --> 02:09:52,290
Zack and and Antonio's generation what

2674
02:09:56,150 --> 02:09:53,730
does this start to tell you about the

2675
02:09:58,490 --> 02:09:56,160
contact that is happening around the

2676
02:10:01,070 --> 02:09:58,500
world is there something about to happen

2677
02:10:04,010 --> 02:10:01,080
oh definitely

2678
02:10:08,480 --> 02:10:04,020
but I think also maybe you're asking

2679
02:10:11,450 --> 02:10:08,490
about the disclosure possibly yeah

2680
02:10:13,940 --> 02:10:11,460
well that's part of it certainly but

2681
02:10:16,970 --> 02:10:13,950
there is something going on yeah exactly

2682
02:10:19,100 --> 02:10:16,980
I haven't it's definitely going

2683
02:10:24,230 --> 02:10:19,110
something is definitely going on because

2684
02:10:26,930 --> 02:10:24,240
when you see younger kids talk that way

2685
02:10:29,660 --> 02:10:26,940
so there was another girl was eight

2686
02:10:31,700 --> 02:10:29,670
years old we couldn't include her in the

2687
02:10:35,960 --> 02:10:31,710
film this time but you know maybe in the

2688
02:10:38,180 --> 02:10:35,970
future when you see those younger adults

2689
02:10:42,200 --> 02:10:38,190
can't call them children anymore

2690
02:10:44,600 --> 02:10:42,210
speak that way you realize okay there is

2691
02:10:46,280 --> 02:10:44,610
a new generation of human that is on the

2692
02:10:46,820 --> 02:10:46,290
earth I mean there's no question about

2693
02:10:50,840 --> 02:10:46,830
it

2694
02:10:54,140 --> 02:10:50,850
these kids don't feel don't look don't

2695
02:10:59,590 --> 02:10:54,150
function like the typical teenagers or

2696
02:11:04,010 --> 02:10:59,600
typical humans and so they're definitely

2697
02:11:07,190 --> 02:11:04,020
showing up in this way and also I feel

2698
02:11:10,400 --> 02:11:07,200
that it's becoming more and more

2699
02:11:12,470 --> 02:11:10,410
widespread more and more common so that

2700
02:11:15,920 --> 02:11:12,480
what I'm also hoping to do with this

2701
02:11:19,430 --> 02:11:15,930
film is to encourage people to just stop

2702
02:11:21,800 --> 02:11:19,440
making it a big deal to just start

2703
02:11:24,050 --> 02:11:21,810
talking about their experiences it is an

2704
02:11:28,790 --> 02:11:24,060
experience just like anything else and

2705
02:11:32,230 --> 02:11:28,800
the more they do the more that reality

2706
02:11:35,540 --> 02:11:32,240
is going to be out there and become

2707
02:11:38,960 --> 02:11:35,550
commonplace and stop being so strange

2708
02:11:41,270 --> 02:11:38,970
you know what I mean and so that's why I

2709
02:11:42,950 --> 02:11:41,280
actually I wasn't even going to be in

2710
02:11:45,680 --> 02:11:42,960
the fill I didn't even want to be in the

2711
02:11:47,060 --> 02:11:45,690
film but I did then finally I was

2712
02:11:48,680 --> 02:11:47,070
talking to some producers and

2713
02:11:50,240 --> 02:11:48,690
distributors and they're like what are

2714
02:11:52,130 --> 02:11:50,250
you talking about that's why you're

2715
02:11:56,360 --> 02:11:52,140
making the film because this happened to

2716
02:11:57,140 --> 02:11:56,370
you and I realized it is important to to

2717
02:11:59,510 --> 02:11:57,150
say

2718
02:12:02,330 --> 02:11:59,520
had this happen to me because I just

2719
02:12:06,620 --> 02:12:02,340
want to make it an example to everyone

2720
02:12:08,300 --> 02:12:06,630
who's added experience to just be okay

2721
02:12:12,560 --> 02:12:08,310
with it and start talking about it and

2722
02:12:15,350 --> 02:12:12,570
so I feel that also with this film we

2723
02:12:18,260 --> 02:12:15,360
are going to be coming out speaking of

2724
02:12:21,140 --> 02:12:18,270
coming out and the disclosure that

2725
02:12:24,500 --> 02:12:21,150
people talk about or hoping for it's

2726
02:12:27,200 --> 02:12:24,510
going to come from us I mean it's going

2727
02:12:29,180 --> 02:12:27,210
to come from people who are going to say

2728
02:12:31,040 --> 02:12:29,190
this is what I solve is what I know

2729
02:12:34,100 --> 02:12:31,050
that's what I understand this is who I

2730
02:12:35,840 --> 02:12:34,110
am this is the proof this is more

2731
02:12:37,850 --> 02:12:35,850
science here's another science here's

2732
02:12:40,640 --> 02:12:37,860
another side you see what I mean and the

2733
02:12:43,880 --> 02:12:40,650
more we do that the more this becomes

2734
02:12:46,540 --> 02:12:43,890
the next reality on the planet you just

2735
02:12:50,240 --> 02:12:46,550
don't you just mentioned an

2736
02:12:53,870 --> 02:12:50,250
eight-year-old before I ask you this

2737
02:12:56,360 --> 02:12:53,880
question the the experiences and the

2738
02:12:58,310 --> 02:12:56,370
interviews with the children in Africa

2739
02:13:01,550 --> 02:12:58,320
when when they had that contact

2740
02:13:04,460 --> 02:13:01,560
experience at that school profound then

2741
02:13:06,290 --> 02:13:04,470
we have West all over in Australia and

2742
02:13:08,600 --> 02:13:06,300
and those children and what they went

2743
02:13:13,450 --> 02:13:08,610
through also hopping up at an elementary

2744
02:13:17,530 --> 02:13:13,460
school at a school and when you hear a

2745
02:13:19,910 --> 02:13:17,540
child a child child speak about these

2746
02:13:23,090 --> 02:13:19,920
things that they have witnessed and seen

2747
02:13:25,880 --> 02:13:23,100
it is something that affects us as

2748
02:13:28,850 --> 02:13:25,890
adults you just mentioned an

2749
02:13:34,700 --> 02:13:28,860
eight-year-old did you speak to this

2750
02:13:36,710 --> 02:13:34,710
eight-year-old about et yes so we had

2751
02:13:39,590 --> 02:13:36,720
once there was another eight-year-old

2752
02:13:41,900 --> 02:13:39,600
that also Mary told me about but then I

2753
02:13:44,930 --> 02:13:41,910
also found another eight-year-old

2754
02:13:48,020 --> 02:13:44,940
through another client of mine actually

2755
02:13:50,390 --> 02:13:48,030
and we had a brief Skype conversation

2756
02:13:53,120 --> 02:13:50,400
because she was telling me that her girl

2757
02:13:55,310 --> 02:13:53,130
her daughter was a bit confused about

2758
02:13:57,260 --> 02:13:55,320
some of the messages she was receiving

2759
02:13:59,330 --> 02:13:57,270
and so I spoke with her and basically

2760
02:14:02,660 --> 02:13:59,340
she was saying that she was seeing all

2761
02:14:05,150 --> 02:14:02,670
sorts of codes and when she looked on

2762
02:14:07,850 --> 02:14:05,160
the computer she was recognizing some of

2763
02:14:10,700 --> 02:14:07,860
the codes and so I you know I spoke to

2764
02:14:13,150 --> 02:14:10,710
her about that so so it's pretty mind

2765
02:14:15,950 --> 02:14:13,160
when an eight-year-old tells you about

2766
02:14:18,620 --> 02:14:15,960
recognizing codes and being on a

2767
02:14:20,870 --> 02:14:18,630
spaceship or remembering her planet I

2768
02:14:24,530 --> 02:14:20,880
mean it does something to like you just

2769
02:14:27,950 --> 02:14:24,540
said so these children are definitely

2770
02:14:29,840 --> 02:14:27,960
coming knowing a lot of information with

2771
02:14:33,080 --> 02:14:29,850
all their full brain capacity I think

2772
02:14:35,020 --> 02:14:33,090
they're learning organically how to tap

2773
02:14:37,520 --> 02:14:35,030
into universal knowledge and

2774
02:14:40,280 --> 02:14:37,530
continuously bring that knowledge

2775
02:14:44,270 --> 02:14:40,290
through as the experiencing this reality

2776
02:14:50,780 --> 02:14:44,280
and so I think it's happening on several

2777
02:14:57,170 --> 02:14:50,790
levels so one whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa

2778
02:14:59,990 --> 02:14:57,180
whoa this eight-year-old are what the

2779
02:15:03,890 --> 02:15:00,000
the communication this eight-year-old

2780
02:15:06,740 --> 02:15:03,900
was was seeing symbols was communicating

2781
02:15:09,850 --> 02:15:06,750
with et and went to her parent or I'm

2782
02:15:11,990 --> 02:15:09,860
saying her I don't know cuz uh and I

2783
02:15:13,880 --> 02:15:12,000
okay it is a girl I don't want to know

2784
02:15:16,310 --> 02:15:13,890
the specifics you know eight years old

2785
02:15:20,050 --> 02:15:16,320
with you know let's keep that out of the

2786
02:15:23,240 --> 02:15:20,060
play but went to her parents and said

2787
02:15:25,670 --> 02:15:23,250
she has made contact with et am i

2788
02:15:28,160 --> 02:15:25,680
understanding this correctly yeah that

2789
02:15:31,490 --> 02:15:28,170
she's been honest the shade spaceship

2790
02:15:34,970 --> 02:15:31,500
several times and she sees her friends

2791
02:15:37,070 --> 02:15:34,980
there and and there are other children

2792
02:15:39,440 --> 02:15:37,080
her age which actually Zack talks about

2793
02:15:42,140 --> 02:15:39,450
is that he does Bradley yeah you don't

2794
02:15:45,200 --> 02:15:42,150
see that yeah and so and then she talks

2795
02:15:47,209 --> 02:15:45,210
about in a planet that you know she's

2796
02:15:49,220 --> 02:15:47,219
communicating with which is where her

2797
02:15:53,450 --> 02:15:49,230
real parents are and she's telling this

2798
02:15:56,600 --> 02:15:53,460
to her human parents so kind of Wow yeah

2799
02:15:58,670 --> 02:15:56,610
so I mean there's so this generation is

2800
02:16:02,030 --> 02:15:58,680
already on the earth I mean definitely

2801
02:16:05,930 --> 02:16:02,040
there's no question and I think that the

2802
02:16:08,810 --> 02:16:05,940
more we allow that to happen the more we

2803
02:16:11,780 --> 02:16:08,820
talk about these experiences and again

2804
02:16:14,560 --> 02:16:11,790
stop making it a big deal I'm walking

2805
02:16:17,990 --> 02:16:14,570
into you know I'm making the film with

2806
02:16:20,360 --> 02:16:18,000
cameraman production crew distribution

2807
02:16:22,910 --> 02:16:20,370
you know TV executives you know like you

2808
02:16:24,060 --> 02:16:22,920
would think normal people right that

2809
02:16:27,720 --> 02:16:24,070
aren't necessary

2810
02:16:30,840 --> 02:16:27,730
into UFOs or into et or any of that

2811
02:16:33,120 --> 02:16:30,850
stuff and sometimes the very first time

2812
02:16:36,390 --> 02:16:33,130
I meet them they say hey what do you do

2813
02:16:38,550 --> 02:16:36,400
and I tell them I you know I'm not

2814
02:16:40,590 --> 02:16:38,560
hiding anything I'm saying I've been

2815
02:16:41,910 --> 02:16:40,600
teaching about consciousness about you

2816
02:16:44,700 --> 02:16:41,920
know coming in contact with other

2817
02:16:48,930 --> 02:16:44,710
realities and then their face is like

2818
02:16:51,690 --> 02:16:48,940
wow this is so interesting can you tell

2819
02:16:55,620 --> 02:16:51,700
me about how that works I mean so I

2820
02:16:59,100 --> 02:16:55,630
realize that the more I make it just a

2821
02:17:02,010 --> 02:16:59,110
normal everyday thing that it's not a

2822
02:17:05,520 --> 02:17:02,020
big deal the more people will react to

2823
02:17:06,510 --> 02:17:05,530
it in this way and so did this this

2824
02:17:08,430 --> 02:17:06,520
eight-year-old

2825
02:17:11,791 --> 02:17:08,440
I'm not going to let this go this

2826
02:17:14,160 --> 02:17:11,801
eight-year-old as an adult we would all

2827
02:17:17,041 --> 02:17:14,170
go okay that you watch some crazy

2828
02:17:19,230 --> 02:17:17,051
cartoons it's just your imagination and

2829
02:17:21,960 --> 02:17:19,240
that confuses the eight-year-old because

2830
02:17:23,970 --> 02:17:21,970
the eight-year oldest is this is real

2831
02:17:27,030 --> 02:17:23,980
something you know we're trying to

2832
02:17:32,430 --> 02:17:27,040
suggest to them that it's not of course

2833
02:17:34,710 --> 02:17:32,440
but her parents were they contactees did

2834
02:17:37,740 --> 02:17:34,720
they speak to this you know their

2835
02:17:43,140 --> 02:17:37,750
daughter about this or were they not

2836
02:17:43,590 --> 02:17:43,150
contact these and this is a how do I say

2837
02:17:47,370 --> 02:17:43,600
this

2838
02:17:49,380 --> 02:17:47,380
somebody that didn't have didn't hear

2839
02:17:52,980 --> 02:17:49,390
this from somewhere else

2840
02:17:54,900 --> 02:17:52,990
no so her parent in this particular case

2841
02:17:57,570 --> 02:17:54,910
because I work with other children too

2842
02:18:00,270 --> 02:17:57,580
as well so but in this particular case

2843
02:18:05,520 --> 02:18:00,280
the parents were not contact he's at all

2844
02:18:09,120 --> 02:18:05,530
Wow or no no like they you know but the

2845
02:18:11,730 --> 02:18:09,130
mother was very open like she was

2846
02:18:14,580 --> 02:18:11,740
obviously guided you know to not shut

2847
02:18:17,070 --> 02:18:14,590
her off or like kind of tell her to stop

2848
02:18:20,220 --> 02:18:17,080
talking about it and somehow she found

2849
02:18:23,690 --> 02:18:20,230
me through another friend so kind of she

2850
02:18:26,010 --> 02:18:23,700
reached out through someone else and I

2851
02:18:29,750 --> 02:18:26,020
explained it to her so in other words

2852
02:18:33,150 --> 02:18:29,760
she's not she the eight-year-old was not

2853
02:18:35,370 --> 02:18:33,160
it didn't have any prior knowledge or

2854
02:18:37,390 --> 02:18:35,380
parents weren't into it or anything like

2855
02:18:40,330 --> 02:18:37,400
that the father is kind of the low

2856
02:18:42,340 --> 02:18:40,340
it's out of the picture like he's kind

2857
02:18:45,060 --> 02:18:42,350
of there but not so much paying

2858
02:18:50,530 --> 02:18:45,070
attention letting it just happen the way

2859
02:18:53,379 --> 02:18:50,540
so yeah is there is there a legal issue

2860
02:18:56,650 --> 02:18:53,389
with speaking with somebody that young

2861
02:18:58,390 --> 02:18:56,660
on camera yeah we can't in there not in

2862
02:19:00,340 --> 02:18:58,400
the film but you have to have the

2863
02:19:03,040 --> 02:19:00,350
parents firm voice certainly you do but

2864
02:19:05,080 --> 02:19:03,050
I mean beyond that I mean it's just I'm

2865
02:19:08,080 --> 02:19:05,090
almost uncomfortable talking about it

2866
02:19:09,850 --> 02:19:08,090
and I'd never even met this child you

2867
02:19:12,340 --> 02:19:09,860
know that that's what I'm saying we have

2868
02:19:14,379 --> 02:19:12,350
yeah so I've had some meetings with

2869
02:19:16,959 --> 02:19:14,389
production companies about different

2870
02:19:19,120 --> 02:19:16,969
shows like that and one of the idea

2871
02:19:21,459 --> 02:19:19,130
actually with the television network

2872
02:19:24,669 --> 02:19:21,469
they wanted to do something along those

2873
02:19:26,770 --> 02:19:24,679
lines and then eventually the network

2874
02:19:28,900 --> 02:19:26,780
said no it's just too complicated

2875
02:19:31,030 --> 02:19:28,910
because there's so many legal issues

2876
02:19:33,100 --> 02:19:31,040
attached to it and then we don't want to

2877
02:19:34,810 --> 02:19:33,110
and you know sometimes we're trying to

2878
02:19:36,850 --> 02:19:34,820
do the right thing we're just bringing

2879
02:19:38,680 --> 02:19:36,860
out the truth but it's always kind of

2880
02:19:41,350 --> 02:19:38,690
there's always some group that's going

2881
02:19:44,080 --> 02:19:41,360
to say oh you're exploiting children

2882
02:19:47,050 --> 02:19:44,090
yeah yeah yeah yeah and so and and the

2883
02:19:50,110 --> 02:19:47,060
thing is I didn't look for it it came to

2884
02:19:52,780 --> 02:19:50,120
me if people ask are looking for help

2885
02:19:56,110 --> 02:19:52,790
right they don't know what to do when

2886
02:19:59,500 --> 02:19:56,120
the child says hey mom you know I can

2887
02:20:01,930 --> 02:19:59,510
read these symbols and you know and and

2888
02:20:03,820 --> 02:20:01,940
so when the mother said well how can you

2889
02:20:06,160 --> 02:20:03,830
read them what are what do they mean and

2890
02:20:09,610 --> 02:20:06,170
she said well this one means home and

2891
02:20:11,230 --> 02:20:09,620
this one means a tree or something you

2892
02:20:14,350 --> 02:20:11,240
know what I mean like so the mother is

2893
02:20:19,470 --> 02:20:14,360
going like what's going on here you know

2894
02:20:22,570 --> 02:20:19,480
so um I mean the parents are looking for

2895
02:20:24,670 --> 02:20:22,580
for me to help them with that so we're

2896
02:20:28,540 --> 02:20:24,680
not it's not like we're out chasing

2897
02:20:30,820 --> 02:20:28,550
finding children to make up stories it's

2898
02:20:34,000 --> 02:20:30,830
not like that yeah when you think about

2899
02:20:37,301 --> 02:20:34,010
things like you know the beauty contest

2900
02:20:39,790 --> 02:20:37,311
with the you know some you know it's

2901
02:20:42,310 --> 02:20:39,800
totally like the parents living out

2902
02:20:44,700 --> 02:20:42,320
their fantasy that they couldn't do when

2903
02:20:47,200 --> 02:20:44,710
they work right and so they're doing it

2904
02:20:50,020 --> 02:20:47,210
you know vicariously through their

2905
02:20:51,130 --> 02:20:50,030
children I think it's painfully hard to

2906
02:20:52,809 --> 02:20:51,140
watch into wit

2907
02:20:54,639 --> 02:20:52,819
but they are actually out there doing

2908
02:20:57,460 --> 02:20:54,649
this right you don't put makeup on a

2909
02:21:03,820 --> 02:20:57,470
five year old girl and put her in an

2910
02:21:05,530 --> 02:21:03,830
evening gown but the same vibe even

2911
02:21:09,130 --> 02:21:05,540
though it's not direct that the same

2912
02:21:11,889 --> 02:21:09,140
kind of exploitation would come out from

2913
02:21:15,399 --> 02:21:11,899
critics out there if this was happening

2914
02:21:18,519 --> 02:21:15,409
with children that young talking about

2915
02:21:22,450 --> 02:21:18,529
being a contact T with ET and making a

2916
02:21:24,580 --> 02:21:22,460
film about it I can only imagine the the

2917
02:21:27,010 --> 02:21:24,590
inflammatory things that would result

2918
02:21:28,510 --> 02:21:27,020
from something like that yeah so that's

2919
02:21:30,219 --> 02:21:28,520
the reason why I think you know

2920
02:21:32,380 --> 02:21:30,229
especially networks you know they're

2921
02:21:34,330 --> 02:21:32,390
pretty traditional in their way of

2922
02:21:36,340 --> 02:21:34,340
producing and marketing and things like

2923
02:21:39,099 --> 02:21:36,350
that and always of course there's a fear

2924
02:21:42,280 --> 02:21:39,109
factor of lawsuits or what-have-you so

2925
02:21:44,979 --> 02:21:42,290
they're always we have all these amazing

2926
02:21:46,599 --> 02:21:44,989
ideas and then we shy away from it and

2927
02:21:49,540 --> 02:21:46,609
they shy away from it because of that

2928
02:21:51,580 --> 02:21:49,550
but I think going back to you know

2929
02:21:55,450 --> 02:21:51,590
what's happening on the planet I think

2930
02:21:58,840 --> 02:21:55,460
that's why also I started a community on

2931
02:22:01,210 --> 02:21:58,850
the on the website gods among us comm we

2932
02:22:04,120 --> 02:22:01,220
created a new page and I'm also working

2933
02:22:07,599 --> 02:22:04,130
with Rebecca Hardcastle Oh forgot about

2934
02:22:08,860 --> 02:22:07,609
Rebecca Wow Rebecca I'm so sorry Rebecca

2935
02:22:12,389 --> 02:22:08,870
I apologize

2936
02:22:16,750 --> 02:22:12,399
oh there's great in the film oh yeah

2937
02:22:18,969 --> 02:22:16,760
she's amazing I love her so so we are

2938
02:22:22,120 --> 02:22:18,979
putting together actually we are we

2939
02:22:27,880 --> 02:22:22,130
started already this sort of community

2940
02:22:30,250 --> 02:22:27,890
of contactees and experiencers to just

2941
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to offer support if they just want to

2942
02:22:38,290 --> 02:22:33,800
tell their story or find others like

2943
02:22:41,469 --> 02:22:38,300
them in their area or groups in their

2944
02:22:44,500 --> 02:22:41,479
area so we're creating this map is this

2945
02:22:47,320 --> 02:22:44,510
interactive map and groups so that

2946
02:22:50,110 --> 02:22:47,330
people can start to connect with others

2947
02:22:54,070 --> 02:22:50,120
and also the parents of children who

2948
02:22:56,530 --> 02:22:54,080
have children like that to find a place

2949
02:22:59,099 --> 02:22:56,540
to to connect with these group groups

2950
02:23:02,500 --> 02:22:59,109
locally and we're going to start also

2951
02:23:03,519 --> 02:23:02,510
facilitating some online workshops for

2952
02:23:05,000 --> 02:23:03,529
that as well

2953
02:23:07,370 --> 02:23:05,010
so

2954
02:23:11,720 --> 02:23:07,380
you know we're going to do like support

2955
02:23:14,690 --> 02:23:11,730
groups online maybe to just to help

2956
02:23:19,400 --> 02:23:14,700
people figure out what's going on you

2957
02:23:22,370 --> 02:23:19,410
know so do you anticipate this being

2958
02:23:24,650 --> 02:23:22,380
released into theaters I mean with I

2959
02:23:26,990 --> 02:23:24,660
know that that's always the ultimate

2960
02:23:29,210 --> 02:23:27,000
goal when you you know write and produce

2961
02:23:31,460 --> 02:23:29,220
and direct something like this but is

2962
02:23:33,530 --> 02:23:31,470
that possible because this would I think

2963
02:23:35,720 --> 02:23:33,540
you know speak to the lowest common

2964
02:23:39,410 --> 02:23:35,730
denominator out there people that have

2965
02:23:41,301 --> 02:23:39,420
no idea that this world exists but it

2966
02:23:44,030 --> 02:23:41,311
would help I think that they would

2967
02:23:46,490 --> 02:23:44,040
understand the film yeah so there is a

2968
02:23:49,761 --> 02:23:46,500
possibility with the distributors that

2969
02:23:52,850 --> 02:23:49,771
we have but it's usually limited release

2970
02:23:56,390 --> 02:23:52,860
that's how it works so it's definitely

2971
02:23:59,210 --> 02:23:56,400
possible it's costly but you know we can

2972
02:24:03,320 --> 02:23:59,220
but I think it's still a bit of a myth

2973
02:24:05,180 --> 02:24:03,330
that it has to be in theaters to attract

2974
02:24:08,480 --> 02:24:05,190
the mainstream values for a short time

2975
02:24:10,640 --> 02:24:08,490
yes but ultimately now everybody's turn

2976
02:24:13,011 --> 02:24:10,650
to the Internet as you all know the

2977
02:24:15,950 --> 02:24:13,021
Netflix the Amazons and things like that

2978
02:24:18,740 --> 02:24:15,960
so the film will definitely make it on

2979
02:24:21,290 --> 02:24:18,750
all the platforms and if we decide to do

2980
02:24:24,801 --> 02:24:21,300
it to do a theatrical release we will

2981
02:24:26,780 --> 02:24:24,811
announce that for sure you know I will

2982
02:24:29,091 --> 02:24:26,790
be limited but still it's still

2983
02:24:31,040 --> 02:24:29,101
interesting to have that platform as

2984
02:24:33,560 --> 02:24:31,050
well and the meantime were again we're

2985
02:24:35,421 --> 02:24:33,570
having these private screenings they

2986
02:24:38,150 --> 02:24:35,431
will be post they're posted on the

2987
02:24:39,890 --> 02:24:38,160
website as soon as we book a theater it

2988
02:24:42,740 --> 02:24:39,900
will be out there you know we'll post it

2989
02:24:45,381 --> 02:24:42,750
for sure yeah so you've got you've got

2990
02:24:50,600 --> 02:24:45,391
Manhattan that's going to be at the Soho

2991
02:24:52,341 --> 02:24:50,610
Playhouse you've got that up here trying

2992
02:24:55,610 --> 02:24:52,351
to I'm going through the website

2993
02:24:59,890 --> 02:24:55,620
everybody go to gods among us dot-com go

2994
02:25:03,770 --> 02:24:59,900
to events and everything is listed there

2995
02:25:05,900 --> 02:25:03,780
the film is gods among us it's an

2996
02:25:07,430 --> 02:25:05,910
extraordinary piece of work and you can

2997
02:25:13,100 --> 02:25:07,440
tell that it's a labor of love but on

2998
02:25:16,850 --> 02:25:13,110
top of that it's a very easy to watch

2999
02:25:18,889 --> 02:25:16,860
it's a cinematic film the photography is

3000
02:25:21,260 --> 02:25:18,899
done really well the editing the are

3001
02:25:23,090 --> 02:25:21,270
work the music it's a complete

3002
02:25:24,800 --> 02:25:23,100
documentary not to give something very

3003
02:25:27,109 --> 02:25:24,810
much to be proud of here at Carolina

3004
02:25:30,319 --> 02:25:27,119
that's great thanks for saying that I

3005
02:25:32,329 --> 02:25:30,329
appreciate it yeah so we we need to also

3006
02:25:35,899 --> 02:25:32,339
add contact and desert is still not

3007
02:25:37,639 --> 02:25:35,909
there on the events page but yeah thanks

3008
02:25:39,439 --> 02:25:37,649
for saying all this Jimmy I appreciate

3009
02:25:45,019 --> 02:25:39,449
it but it is the truth I mean like we're

3010
02:25:47,349 --> 02:25:45,029
trying to do this work to to bring the

3011
02:25:51,079 --> 02:25:47,359
truth out there I mean this is not

3012
02:25:54,590 --> 02:25:51,089
obviously there's a lot of very

3013
02:25:57,469 --> 02:25:54,600
commercial topics we could have done but

3014
02:26:00,050 --> 02:25:57,479
this is really about just helping with

3015
02:26:02,659 --> 02:26:00,060
bringing out the truth and raising

3016
02:26:05,840 --> 02:26:02,669
awareness and Conte and especially

3017
02:26:09,439 --> 02:26:05,850
bringing validation and answering some

3018
02:26:13,219 --> 02:26:09,449
questions that so many people still have

3019
02:26:15,679 --> 02:26:13,229
about the phenomenon thank you so much

3020
02:26:17,899 --> 02:26:15,689
Caroline keep us posted and of course

3021
02:26:20,539 --> 02:26:17,909
we'll see you two weeks out of contact

3022
02:26:23,149 --> 02:26:20,549
in the desert and tell Zack he must

3023
02:26:24,919 --> 02:26:23,159
attend we'll make them famous thank you

3024
02:26:27,260 --> 02:26:24,929
so much Caroline you're the absolute

3025
02:26:30,169 --> 02:26:27,270
best the film is gods among us the

3026
02:26:32,419 --> 02:26:30,179
website gods among us comm links for

3027
02:26:33,859 --> 02:26:32,429
everything and the omnium universe and

3028
02:26:34,760 --> 02:26:33,869
everything else are over at Jimmy Church

3029
02:26:38,719 --> 02:26:34,770
radio.com

3030
02:26:41,539 --> 02:26:38,729
and there are clips up also as well as

3031
02:26:43,939 --> 02:26:41,549
the trailers up on the website thank you

3032
02:26:45,949 --> 02:26:43,949
so much Caroline be well thanks so much

3033
02:26:48,949 --> 02:26:45,959
for having me Jimmy thank you so much

3034
02:26:51,709 --> 02:26:48,959
you got it Caroline Korie everybody the

3035
02:26:55,279 --> 02:26:51,719
website is right there go and click

3036
02:26:56,749 --> 02:26:55,289
check out the trailers and the the other

3037
02:26:59,419 --> 02:26:56,759
clips that are there I think there's

3038
02:27:01,489 --> 02:26:59,429
five up that you can check out and then

3039
02:27:03,349 --> 02:27:01,499
when it goes into release as well we

3040
02:27:06,109 --> 02:27:03,359
will announce that here at Jimmy Church

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radio calm also don't forget it's going

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to premiere had contact in the desert

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May 19th through the 22nd in Joshua Tree

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California with that I'll be right back

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with all the news that you know nothing

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about this is fade to black

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hey what up yo vivica box here and you

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this is kjz our Jimmy Church radio Jah

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Jah welcome back fade to black

3127
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I'm your Jimmy Church

3128
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I want to thank Caroline Corrie for

3129
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coming in here tonight part of our

3130
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amazing women week

3131
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the film is gods among us the websites

3132
02:31:48,840 --> 02:31:46,420
are right there we posted them up on

3133
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Twitter and of course there over on our

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website just click and go check out the

3135
02:31:55,979 --> 02:31:54,189
trailers and get out to contact in the

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desert so you can watch the full film as

3137
02:32:00,870 --> 02:31:57,579
it premieres here in the United States

3138
02:32:03,750 --> 02:32:00,880
now also tomorrow night

3139
02:32:06,599 --> 02:32:03,760
Trisha Eastman is going to be here for

3140
02:32:09,630 --> 02:32:06,609
the conclusion of our amazing women week

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here on fade to black and tomorrow night

3142
02:32:14,250 --> 02:32:12,939
prepare to have your mind blown no pun

3143
02:32:15,800 --> 02:32:14,260
intended we're going to talk about

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biohacking

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with DMT ayahuasca and iboga and there

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you go that's going to be tomorrow night

3147
02:32:30,330 --> 02:32:24,880
she has a lot to say and there's a lot

3148
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of research seriously and I cannot wait

3149
02:32:35,340 --> 02:32:32,289
it's one of the most anticipated shows

3150
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that we've had lined up here in a very

3151
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long time you know Caroline and Annie

3152
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have been on with us before and one of

3153
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the things that we do like to do here is

3154
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is bring on guests that have never not

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only been on fade to black before but

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but researchers that you may not have

3157
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ever heard from before and so that's

3158
02:32:59,939 --> 02:32:57,720
going to kick down tomorrow night with a

3159
02:33:02,700 --> 02:32:59,949
Tricia Eastman so get ready for that

3160
02:33:07,469 --> 02:33:02,710
it's going to be an amazing show this

3161
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film now although I propped it up really

3162
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good

3163
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okay but it's I can promise you this

3164
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when you see the documentary and you see

3165
02:33:18,660 --> 02:33:17,470
how it's put together it's it's it's

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something that you're going to watch

3167
02:33:22,889 --> 02:33:21,010
more than once I did

3168
02:33:25,650 --> 02:33:22,899
I'm going to watch it again there are

3169
02:33:27,570 --> 02:33:25,660
some moments in this film that are are

3170
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going to stop you dead in your tracks so

3171
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just get ready for that it is an amazing

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documentary it's really really well done

3173
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all of Caroline stuff has been great

3174
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over the years but this film is singular

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okay so go watch the trailers get ready

3176
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make it out to contact in the desert and

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come and watch it with us but do check

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it out when it goes into full release

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okay all right

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I'm going to open up the phone lines got

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enough time to take a couple of calls

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here as I go through some of this

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amazing news that that we put together

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for tonight

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three two three eight two five five zero

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four five three two three eight two five

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five zero four or five with that let me

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click boom hold on okay yes phone lines

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are now open okay all the news that you

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know nothing about get ready for this

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story a purse bought at an Arizona

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Walmart came with a letter in it

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purportedly from an inmate at a Chinese

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prison who communicated 14 hour work

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days with no breaks and threats of

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violence for unfinished labor the $25

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purse purchased at a Walmart in Sierra

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Vista Arizona came with a note that was

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hidden deep within a zippered pocket and

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this is according to the woman that

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purchased the purse her name was Krystal

3202
02:35:07,920 --> 02:35:05,560
Wallace who bought the purse earlier

3203
02:35:11,540 --> 02:35:07,930
this year took her a while to find the

3204
02:35:15,690 --> 02:35:11,550
note right while Wallace found the note

3205
02:35:17,969 --> 02:35:15,700
several months later in March and this

3206
02:35:21,240 --> 02:35:17,979
is according to the Arizona Daily Star

3207
02:35:24,530 --> 02:35:21,250
Laura Wallace her daughter-in-law then

3208
02:35:28,559 --> 02:35:24,540
took the note and posted it on Facebook

3209
02:35:31,230 --> 02:35:28,569
last month in April the author of the

3210
02:35:34,230 --> 02:35:31,240
letter wrote of and I'm quoting here

3211
02:35:37,620 --> 02:35:34,240
inmates in the ying shan prison

3212
02:35:41,360 --> 02:35:37,630
in Gua Shi China who worked 14 hours

3213
02:35:44,970 --> 02:35:41,370
daily with no breaks rest at noon

3214
02:35:49,410 --> 02:35:44,980
continuing working overtime until 12:00

3215
02:35:52,850 --> 02:35:49,420
midnight now and whoever doesn't finish

3216
02:35:55,770 --> 02:35:52,860
work will be beaten the inmates are

3217
02:35:57,780 --> 02:35:55,780
underfed underpaid the writer added and

3218
02:36:00,211 --> 02:35:57,790
medical costs are deducted from their

3219
02:36:02,220 --> 02:36:00,221
paychecks and then again quoting from

3220
02:36:04,950 --> 02:36:02,230
the notices being a prisoner in China is

3221
02:36:09,030 --> 02:36:04,960
even worse than being a horse cow sheep

3222
02:36:11,820 --> 02:36:09,040
pig or dog in the US and this is where

3223
02:36:16,410 --> 02:36:11,830
it gets even crazier a Walmart

3224
02:36:20,220 --> 02:36:16,420
spokesperson has asked Wallis to contact

3225
02:36:23,610 --> 02:36:20,230
a company in order to help verify the

3226
02:36:25,591 --> 02:36:23,620
letters authenticity Walmart went on to

3227
02:36:29,490 --> 02:36:25,601
say that you know we can't control is we

3228
02:36:32,000 --> 02:36:29,500
you know no the largest retail outlet on

3229
02:36:34,890 --> 02:36:32,010
planet Earth with the lowest prices

3230
02:36:38,070 --> 02:36:34,900
sources out cheap labor and cheap

3231
02:36:42,140 --> 02:36:38,080
manufacturing I get that but to to have

3232
02:36:46,110 --> 02:36:42,150
it manufactured in from a Chinese prison

3233
02:36:48,900 --> 02:36:46,120
with prisoners that are beaten to to

3234
02:36:50,970 --> 02:36:48,910
crank out those low cost products for

3235
02:36:53,580 --> 02:36:50,980
sale here in the United States so we can

3236
02:36:55,140 --> 02:36:53,590
go with our gluttonous way of life and

3237
02:36:57,301 --> 02:36:55,150
go and buy these cheap person or

3238
02:37:00,211 --> 02:36:57,311
whatever it's not just purses it's

3239
02:37:03,841 --> 02:37:00,221
everything that's a sourced out of China

3240
02:37:05,671 --> 02:37:03,851
or other countries and Tizen to have

3241
02:37:10,381 --> 02:37:05,681
Walmart say that they know nothing about

3242
02:37:13,320 --> 02:37:10,391
it that is total BS I am just in

3243
02:37:14,640 --> 02:37:13,330
outraged about this now I have spoken of

3244
02:37:18,270 --> 02:37:14,650
other time I don't want to be

3245
02:37:20,730 --> 02:37:18,280
hypocritical I have said at times on

3246
02:37:23,011 --> 02:37:20,740
this show about view as prison labor

3247
02:37:25,140 --> 02:37:23,021
here in the United States the weight it

3248
02:37:26,520 --> 02:37:25,150
can me compete you know we don't make

3249
02:37:28,470 --> 02:37:26,530
televisions here anymore

3250
02:37:31,560 --> 02:37:28,480
all right theta everything is imported

3251
02:37:34,320 --> 02:37:31,570
we don't make one television set here in

3252
02:37:38,820 --> 02:37:34,330
the United States we can't compete with

3253
02:37:42,421 --> 02:37:38,830
the labor overseas if I was reaiiy was a

3254
02:37:44,850 --> 02:37:42,431
guy that had a ton of money I would go

3255
02:37:46,961 --> 02:37:44,860
and I would I would exploit our prison

3256
02:37:51,041 --> 02:37:46,971
population I really would

3257
02:37:53,440 --> 02:37:51,051
but but this is different here our

3258
02:37:56,411 --> 02:37:53,450
prison population that has rights and

3259
02:37:57,970 --> 02:37:56,421
privileges and and so forth and you

3260
02:38:00,671 --> 02:37:57,980
would only have an eight-hour workday

3261
02:38:02,770 --> 02:38:00,681
here you wouldn't be beaten and so for

3262
02:38:05,381 --> 02:38:02,780
that that is totally different I'm not

3263
02:38:07,631 --> 02:38:05,391
being hypocritical but what is going on

3264
02:38:09,251 --> 02:38:07,641
with Walmart and this example and to

3265
02:38:11,530 --> 02:38:09,261
have Walmart go we need to check the

3266
02:38:15,131 --> 02:38:11,540
authenticity no you need to go over

3267
02:38:20,381 --> 02:38:15,141
there and straighten things out and if

3268
02:38:23,020 --> 02:38:20,391
it comes down to not importing at all or

3269
02:38:25,631 --> 02:38:23,030
choosing another source to manufacture

3270
02:38:28,180 --> 02:38:25,641
these products that's on new Walmart I'm

3271
02:38:29,770 --> 02:38:28,190
just totally offended by this on every

3272
02:38:31,360 --> 02:38:29,780
level with that let's go to the phones

3273
02:38:36,820 --> 02:38:31,370
hi you're live on fade to black who's

3274
02:38:41,980 --> 02:38:36,830
calling hi Jimmy its Fran hi Fran how

3275
02:38:42,850 --> 02:38:41,990
are you go Beckley tapi yeah um I have a

3276
02:38:45,041 --> 02:38:42,860
question

3277
02:38:48,911 --> 02:38:45,051
what do you mean yeah you just go

3278
02:38:51,700 --> 02:38:48,921
Beckley tap yeah I know that you did of

3279
02:38:56,461 --> 02:38:51,710
course I did okay all right all right go

3280
02:39:01,831 --> 02:38:56,471
ahead here's the deal I have a very old

3281
02:39:08,890 --> 02:39:01,841
cassette tape of zecharia sitchin mm-hmm

3282
02:39:11,980 --> 02:39:08,900
from back in probably 94 96 right

3283
02:39:14,711 --> 02:39:11,990
somewhere in there and what I was

3284
02:39:21,911 --> 02:39:14,721
wondering is if you have a cassette

3285
02:39:26,730 --> 02:39:21,921
player that you could bring to CITV

3286
02:39:35,110 --> 02:39:26,740
so we can play it hmm interesting

3287
02:39:38,411 --> 02:39:35,120
Wow Wow I retired my Casella later yeah

3288
02:39:42,190 --> 02:39:38,421
you know what I have I'm not kidding I

3289
02:39:44,440 --> 02:39:42,200
have boxes of cassette tapes of you know

3290
02:39:47,921 --> 02:39:44,450
for music that I did in you know in the

3291
02:39:52,150 --> 02:39:47,931
80s and 90s in bands and stuff I took

3292
02:39:53,950 --> 02:39:52,160
all of those with one of my cassette

3293
02:39:56,489 --> 02:39:53,960
decks that was on its last legs it was

3294
02:39:59,429 --> 02:39:56,499
nice went to it nakamichi

3295
02:40:02,630 --> 02:39:59,439
and I before that was starting to crap

3296
02:40:08,729 --> 02:40:02,640
out and I knew it and probably back in

3297
02:40:10,380 --> 02:40:08,739
2001 2002 2003 I went and archived all

3298
02:40:14,699 --> 02:40:10,390
of that stuff on the hard drives and

3299
02:40:17,309 --> 02:40:14,709
then burned CD copies of everything so I

3300
02:40:19,170 --> 02:40:17,319
had them because they're you know

3301
02:40:22,679 --> 02:40:19,180
they're deteriorating and not only that

3302
02:40:24,179 --> 02:40:22,689
but it's the ability to play back you

3303
02:40:26,580 --> 02:40:24,189
know get a cassette player

3304
02:40:28,739 --> 02:40:26,590
so okay so let's make this loud and

3305
02:40:30,510 --> 02:40:28,749
clear out to the fader not so if you're

3306
02:40:34,529 --> 02:40:30,520
going to contact in the desert and

3307
02:40:37,199 --> 02:40:34,539
you've got a Walkman or something like

3308
02:40:39,779 --> 02:40:37,209
that that will play back we certainly

3309
02:40:43,620 --> 02:40:39,789
will be you know there will be plenty of

3310
02:40:48,210 --> 02:40:43,630
studio dome systems out there that

3311
02:40:53,099 --> 02:40:48,220
everybody I'm thinking maybe Dan asking

3312
02:40:55,050 --> 02:40:53,109
I might have the old school stuff yeah I

3313
02:40:59,099 --> 02:40:55,060
would even think Rick's in it you know

3314
02:41:00,840 --> 02:40:59,109
yeah so yeah yeah so hate have it

3315
02:41:02,849 --> 02:41:00,850
well the fader knots out there if you've

3316
02:41:05,279 --> 02:41:02,859
got if you really have a cassette player

3317
02:41:07,620 --> 02:41:05,289
that will play back and not damage this

3318
02:41:09,269 --> 02:41:07,630
tape I would like to hear it

3319
02:41:14,279 --> 02:41:09,279
where was it recorded at where was he

3320
02:41:21,420 --> 02:41:14,289
speaking he was down in south of Phoenix

3321
02:41:23,790 --> 02:41:21,430
at the Oh what's it called uh okay well

3322
02:41:25,800 --> 02:41:23,800
so who's Phoenix nine ten think it's at

3323
02:41:30,380 --> 02:41:25,810
the mountains down there

3324
02:41:33,989 --> 02:41:30,390
okay down south the Estrella is okay I

3325
02:41:36,479 --> 02:41:33,999
Brad just said and Michelle okay so

3326
02:41:40,559 --> 02:41:36,489
we've got two tweets that just came in

3327
02:41:43,769 --> 02:41:40,569
saying they have cassette decks okay so

3328
02:41:48,479 --> 02:41:43,779
both of you bring them bring them and

3329
02:41:52,019 --> 02:41:48,489
that will get you into a fader party at

3330
02:41:53,639 --> 02:41:52,029
the fader pad at the fader complex what

3331
02:41:56,639 --> 02:41:53,649
are we calling it this year we're

3332
02:42:02,760 --> 02:41:56,649
calling it the fader compound yeah I

3333
02:42:04,649 --> 02:42:02,770
think so so there you go and yeah bring

3334
02:42:07,500 --> 02:42:04,659
them don't forget don't say that you

3335
02:42:10,769 --> 02:42:07,510
have it and then I shall I have it

3336
02:42:15,059 --> 02:42:10,779
never in my bag right now not you friend

3337
02:42:18,120 --> 02:42:15,069
I'm talking to Michelle and Brad oh you

3338
02:42:21,179 --> 02:42:18,130
know so don't just don't forget and I

3339
02:42:23,849 --> 02:42:21,189
would love to I'd love to hear it so you

3340
02:42:27,630 --> 02:42:23,859
really have to player yeah yeah you were

3341
02:42:30,120 --> 02:42:27,640
there when he spoke yes oh how cool is

3342
02:42:32,610 --> 02:42:30,130
that how I bought the tape so did Jeff

3343
02:42:35,730 --> 02:42:32,620
it's my first conference I ever went to

3344
02:42:38,480 --> 02:42:35,740
were you were you a groupie were you a

3345
02:42:43,170 --> 02:42:38,490
zakaria groupie

3346
02:42:43,980 --> 02:42:43,180
not really okay was just a UFO groupie

3347
02:42:45,870 --> 02:42:43,990
okay

3348
02:42:49,110 --> 02:42:45,880
trying to figure out what was going on

3349
02:42:53,429 --> 02:42:49,120
well that'd be the guy drove I drove

3350
02:42:58,440 --> 02:42:53,439
from Las Vegas area and went down there

3351
02:43:01,410 --> 02:42:58,450
and did the whole week and it was

3352
02:43:05,760 --> 02:43:01,420
awesome yeah was he badass was he badass

3353
02:43:10,200 --> 02:43:05,770
tell me he was what me he was awesome

3354
02:43:15,380 --> 02:43:10,210
yeah you know he just being the old guy

3355
02:43:19,260 --> 02:43:15,390
that he was is very soft-spoken and just

3356
02:43:20,280 --> 02:43:19,270
very cool Wow everything was awesome Wow

3357
02:43:23,910 --> 02:43:20,290
Wow

3358
02:43:25,860 --> 02:43:23,920
yeah he's there's uh there's two well

3359
02:43:27,750 --> 02:43:25,870
there's many but the the two that are

3360
02:43:30,840 --> 02:43:27,760
way up there on the list and Reid and I

3361
02:43:34,460 --> 02:43:30,850
talk about this all the time you know

3362
02:43:38,969 --> 02:43:34,470
the two that I never interviewed were

3363
02:43:40,620 --> 02:43:38,979
Zakaria and Lloyd Pye you know oh yeah

3364
02:43:43,320 --> 02:43:40,630
yeah I would then how do we do

3365
02:43:45,630 --> 02:43:43,330
everything to to turn back time

3366
02:43:49,260 --> 02:43:45,640
you know Sakurai and I just that Corral

3367
02:43:53,969 --> 02:43:49,270
was awesome and that did you ever see

3368
02:43:56,580 --> 02:43:53,979
Lloyd Pye speak no I didn't get to yeah

3369
02:43:58,230 --> 02:43:56,590
I totally missed him yeah yeah Lloyd

3370
02:43:59,010 --> 02:43:58,240
would a title amazing thank you

3371
02:44:01,650 --> 02:43:59,020
absolutely

3372
02:44:04,080 --> 02:44:01,660
okay well we'll get you bring the

3373
02:44:06,740 --> 02:44:04,090
cassette and we'll make sure that

3374
02:44:11,250 --> 02:44:06,750
there's there is a cassette player on

3375
02:44:13,080 --> 02:44:11,260
campus okay okay what would you think

3376
02:44:21,751 --> 02:44:13,090
about the show tonight pretty cool huh

3377
02:44:25,291 --> 02:44:21,761
oh yeah she was very very different

3378
02:44:29,490 --> 02:44:25,301
but awesome yes yeah I liked her I liked

3379
02:44:33,661 --> 02:44:29,500
her style she was very interesting the

3380
02:44:37,140 --> 02:44:33,671
film is a just wait the film is is all

3381
02:44:40,081 --> 02:44:37,150
that it is really really good I mean it

3382
02:44:42,480 --> 02:44:40,091
is really good and like I said it comes

3383
02:44:45,150 --> 02:44:42,490
to conclusions and that's what I like oh

3384
02:44:47,581 --> 02:44:45,160
it's one thing to propose the question

3385
02:44:50,701 --> 02:44:47,591
right but it's a whole nother thing to

3386
02:44:52,320 --> 02:44:50,711
to get to it and and have those answers

3387
02:44:54,541 --> 02:44:52,330
and that's what happens in this film

3388
02:44:56,461 --> 02:44:54,551
it's it's it's extraordinary it's really

3389
02:44:58,381 --> 02:44:56,471
well done thank you so much Fran and

3390
02:45:00,211 --> 02:44:58,391
we're going to see you okay we're going

3391
02:45:01,890 --> 02:45:00,221
to be hanging out here in about in about

3392
02:45:05,341 --> 02:45:01,900
two weeks thank you so much

3393
02:45:07,411 --> 02:45:05,351
yep all right good night go back and go

3394
02:45:14,701 --> 02:45:07,421
back Leeds happy right there Fran

3395
02:45:16,770 --> 02:45:14,711
everybody is he hinting oh yeah

3396
02:45:20,581 --> 02:45:16,780
yet you know what watch the film I'm

3397
02:45:23,011 --> 02:45:20,591
just reading Dennis's a post that he did

3398
02:45:24,331 --> 02:45:23,021
in Twitter is she hinting that they're

3399
02:45:28,261 --> 02:45:24,341
hybrids or just have a higher

3400
02:45:31,291 --> 02:45:28,271
consciousness watch the film that that's

3401
02:45:33,411 --> 02:45:31,301
a great great great question that is

3402
02:45:35,220 --> 02:45:33,421
actually discussed in the film I

3403
02:45:38,270 --> 02:45:35,230
definitely don't want to give that away

3404
02:45:41,701 --> 02:45:38,280
you need to check that out all right

3405
02:45:43,801 --> 02:45:41,711
where am i that opens up the phone line

3406
02:45:45,801 --> 02:45:43,811
so I'll take one more call three two

3407
02:45:51,421 --> 02:45:45,811
three eighty five five zero four or five

3408
02:45:54,890 --> 02:45:51,431
an FBI translator traveled to Syria and

3409
02:45:58,440 --> 02:45:54,900
married an Isis terrorist she had been

3410
02:46:00,180 --> 02:45:58,450
investigating unsealed court documents

3411
02:46:03,301 --> 02:46:00,190
reveal details of the marriage between

3412
02:46:07,440 --> 02:46:03,311
Daniella green and rapper turned

3413
02:46:09,270 --> 02:46:07,450
terrorist Dennis cuss pert born in

3414
02:46:12,720 --> 02:46:09,280
Czechoslovakia and raised in Germany

3415
02:46:16,171 --> 02:46:12,730
Green who's 38 years old married a US

3416
02:46:17,881 --> 02:46:16,181
soldier she was married she had moved to

3417
02:46:20,180 --> 02:46:17,891
the United States at a young age where

3418
02:46:25,220 --> 02:46:20,190
she went on to work for the FBI as a

3419
02:46:28,890 --> 02:46:25,230
contract linguist in January 2014

3420
02:46:31,220 --> 02:46:28,900
Green began investigating an individual

3421
02:46:35,080 --> 02:46:31,230
who is in court documents individual a

3422
02:46:38,650 --> 02:46:35,090
quotes identified as Dennis customer

3423
02:46:41,320 --> 02:46:38,660
41 a German Isis terrorist seen in

3424
02:46:44,889 --> 02:46:41,330
propaganda videos where he was even

3425
02:46:48,550 --> 02:46:44,899
holding a severed human head now he's a

3426
02:46:50,650 --> 02:46:48,560
former rapper known as deso dog cus pert

3427
02:46:53,170 --> 02:46:50,660
enjoyed minor success in the music

3428
02:46:56,920 --> 02:46:53,180
industry including opening for rapper

3429
02:47:00,370 --> 02:46:56,930
DMX now after a car accident that left

3430
02:47:02,590 --> 02:47:00,380
him close to death back in 2010 he quit

3431
02:47:05,530 --> 02:47:02,600
rap quit the music business and

3432
02:47:09,730 --> 02:47:05,540
converted to Islam producing Islamic

3433
02:47:12,820 --> 02:47:09,740
devotional songs including one that even

3434
02:47:17,190 --> 02:47:12,830
praised Osama bin Laden some things you

3435
02:47:22,360 --> 02:47:17,200
just can't make up right well in 2012

3436
02:47:25,780 --> 02:47:22,370
Caspar fled Germany a year later he

3437
02:47:29,710 --> 02:47:25,790
emerged in Syria as and I'm quoting

3438
02:47:32,740 --> 02:47:29,720
again here Isis celebrity cheerleader

3439
02:47:35,440 --> 02:47:32,750
and this is according to the Middle East

3440
02:47:39,010 --> 02:47:35,450
Research Institute the memory right the

3441
02:47:41,290 --> 02:47:39,020
called memory well in April 2014 he

3442
02:47:44,139 --> 02:47:41,300
appeared in a video declaring his

3443
02:47:46,450 --> 02:47:44,149
allegiance to Isis claiming he would

3444
02:47:50,560 --> 02:47:46,460
continue to build it until it reaches

3445
02:47:53,200 --> 02:47:50,570
Washington and Obama and in the video as

3446
02:47:56,020 --> 02:47:53,210
he said these words he did the

3447
02:47:58,630 --> 02:47:56,030
throat-cutting gesture you know on

3448
02:48:02,170 --> 02:47:58,640
camera the video then showed cusper

3449
02:48:03,969 --> 02:48:02,180
holding a severed human head and he

3450
02:48:06,790 --> 02:48:03,979
claimed that it belonged to a man that

3451
02:48:10,090 --> 02:48:06,800
was opposing the terrorist group now

3452
02:48:12,070 --> 02:48:10,100
it's unclear now when Greene who

3453
02:48:14,710 --> 02:48:12,080
identified several of customers online

3454
02:48:16,570 --> 02:48:14,720
accounts as part of her investigation

3455
02:48:19,480 --> 02:48:16,580
it's unclear when she began

3456
02:48:22,540 --> 02:48:19,490
communicating with this guy well in June

3457
02:48:26,410 --> 02:48:22,550
2014 she told the FBI she was traveling

3458
02:48:28,990 --> 02:48:26,420
to Germany to visit family when instead

3459
02:48:33,490 --> 02:48:29,000
she made a beeline took a right-hand

3460
02:48:36,370 --> 02:48:33,500
turn and flew directly to Turkey then

3461
02:48:40,110 --> 02:48:36,380
she crossed the border into Syria and

3462
02:48:44,080 --> 02:48:40,120
then turns around and marries Casper

3463
02:48:47,791 --> 02:48:44,090
while she was still married in the

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02:48:52,981 --> 02:48:47,801
United States now days is

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02:48:54,930 --> 02:48:52,991
is crazy it's crazier she discussed her

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02:48:57,901 --> 02:48:54,940
situation with an unidentified

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02:49:01,821 --> 02:48:57,911
correspondent via email in which she

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02:49:04,621 --> 02:49:01,831
expressed regret at her actions and

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02:49:09,390 --> 02:49:04,631
recognition that she had broken the law

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02:49:12,421 --> 02:49:09,400
and in one of the emails I'm going to

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02:49:15,001 --> 02:49:12,431
quote her she said quote not sure if

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02:49:18,001 --> 02:49:15,011
they told you that I will probably go to

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02:49:21,390 --> 02:49:18,011
prison for a long time if I come back

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02:49:25,771 --> 02:49:21,400
but that is life I wish I could turn

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02:49:27,861 --> 02:49:25,781
back time some days and quote now is she

3476
02:49:31,821 --> 02:49:27,871
saying there that she regretted marrying

3477
02:49:34,081 --> 02:49:31,831
cusper is she regretting going to Syria

3478
02:49:37,140 --> 02:49:34,091
getting involved in ice we're talking

3479
02:49:40,470 --> 02:49:37,150
about an FBI linguist here that was

3480
02:49:46,161 --> 02:49:40,480
married to that staid soldier military

3481
02:49:50,791 --> 02:49:46,171
guy absolutely spun out of control after

3482
02:49:53,281 --> 02:49:50,801
after a month you know living in Syria

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02:49:55,791 --> 02:49:53,291
she left and returned to the United

3484
02:50:02,521 --> 02:49:55,801
States where guess what happened

3485
02:50:06,810 --> 02:50:02,531
arrested arrested went to prison two

3486
02:50:08,821 --> 02:50:06,820
years she got such a short sentence

3487
02:50:12,600 --> 02:50:08,831
because she was credited by the

3488
02:50:15,871 --> 02:50:12,610
prosecutor for her cooperation with

3489
02:50:18,691 --> 02:50:15,881
authorities the Pentagon reported that

3490
02:50:20,911 --> 02:50:18,701
cusper Wright the rapper the German

3491
02:50:24,201 --> 02:50:20,921
rapper holding up human heads and videos

3492
02:50:26,911 --> 02:50:24,211
their celebrity dude representing Isis

3493
02:50:29,970 --> 02:50:26,921
the Pentagon reported that customer was

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02:50:34,951 --> 02:50:29,980
killed in a u.s. airstrike back in

3495
02:50:37,021 --> 02:50:34,961
October of 2015 but then nine months

3496
02:50:39,180 --> 02:50:37,031
later they had to reverse everything and

3497
02:50:42,451 --> 02:50:39,190
said that their assessment of the strike

3498
02:50:47,401 --> 02:50:42,461
was wrong and that cusper the ISIS

3499
02:50:51,600 --> 02:50:47,411
rapper had survived now here's the end

3500
02:50:55,261 --> 02:50:51,610
of the story yeah I love this green the

3501
02:50:59,911 --> 02:50:55,271
former FBI agent convicted felon and

3502
02:51:01,480 --> 02:50:59,921
Isis wife now works as a hostess in a

3503
02:51:07,090 --> 02:51:01,490
hotel lounge

3504
02:51:12,550 --> 02:51:07,100
at an undisclosed location what a crazy

3505
02:51:15,040 --> 02:51:12,560
life you got to ask if it was all worth

3506
02:51:18,790 --> 02:51:15,050
it and think about her husband here in

3507
02:51:22,240 --> 02:51:18,800
the United States unbelievable story the

3508
02:51:22,810 --> 02:51:22,250
point to all of this seriously it's all

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02:51:25,540 --> 02:51:22,820
true

3510
02:51:30,480 --> 02:51:25,550
all of the everything that I just read

3511
02:51:36,610 --> 02:51:30,490
to you right now is from court documents

3512
02:51:38,469 --> 02:51:36,620
there you go nothing believable all

3513
02:51:41,680 --> 02:51:38,479
right now here we all right all right

3514
02:51:43,480 --> 02:51:41,690
if this doesn't enrage you like the last

3515
02:51:47,680 --> 02:51:43,490
story or the one before that with the

3516
02:51:51,400 --> 02:51:47,690
purses from Walmart listen to this now I

3517
02:51:53,940 --> 02:51:51,410
warned everybody about this but it's

3518
02:52:01,390 --> 02:51:53,950
just gone down

3519
02:52:06,520 --> 02:52:01,400
Saudi Aramco has become a 100% owner of

3520
02:52:09,480 --> 02:52:06,530
Port Arthur that's right the largest oil

3521
02:52:14,469 --> 02:52:09,490
refinery in the United States in Texas

3522
02:52:19,380 --> 02:52:14,479
Port Arthur now the Saudis Saudi Arabia

3523
02:52:24,480 --> 02:52:19,390
now owns 100 percent of Port Arthur in

3524
02:52:29,140 --> 02:52:24,490
Texas Port Arthur has a capacity of

3525
02:52:32,940 --> 02:52:29,150
600,000 barrels per day it's the biggest

3526
02:52:40,830 --> 02:52:32,950
in North America and we don't own it

3527
02:52:47,980 --> 02:52:40,840
Saudi Arabia does how do you like that

3528
02:52:51,310 --> 02:52:47,990
profits okay the the kingdom's national

3529
02:52:54,760 --> 02:52:51,320
oil company previously owned 50% in the

3530
02:53:00,660 --> 02:52:54,770
refinery before acquiring the full stake

3531
02:53:06,400 --> 02:53:00,670
from Royal Dutch Shell on Monday

3532
02:53:10,120 --> 02:53:06,410
yesterday complicated relations between

3533
02:53:14,469 --> 02:53:10,130
the companies force them to separate

3534
02:53:15,650 --> 02:53:14,479
their assets so yesterday shall announce

3535
02:53:30,530 --> 02:53:15,660
the

3536
02:53:33,950 --> 02:53:30,540
also got exclusive right to sell shell

3537
02:53:37,130 --> 02:53:33,960
branded gasoline and diesel are you

3538
02:53:40,160 --> 02:53:37,140
ready are you sitting down if you do not

3539
02:53:43,460 --> 02:53:40,170
write Washington right now if you don't

3540
02:53:47,060 --> 02:53:43,470
tweet Trump right now you don't get it

3541
02:53:49,490 --> 02:53:47,070
because right now the Saudis have the

3542
02:53:53,180 --> 02:53:49,500
exclusive right to sell shell branded

3543
02:53:57,219 --> 02:53:53,190
gasoline and diesel in Georgia North

3544
02:54:01,700 --> 02:53:57,229
Carolina South Carolina Virginia

3545
02:54:06,250 --> 02:54:01,710
Maryland Washington DC the eastern half

3546
02:54:10,219 --> 02:54:06,260
of Texas and the majority of Florida

3547
02:54:15,260 --> 02:54:10,229
that's half of the United States think

3548
02:54:18,650 --> 02:54:15,270
about what I just said to you now this

3549
02:54:21,920 --> 02:54:18,660
is where it gets twisted and it gets

3550
02:54:30,859 --> 02:54:26,179
the Gulf Coast refinery agreement was

3551
02:54:34,309 --> 02:54:30,869
signed less than two months after united

3552
02:54:38,689 --> 02:54:34,319
states president donald trump met with

3553
02:54:47,960 --> 02:54:38,699
deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman

3554
02:54:50,479 --> 02:54:47,970
at the White House now I I don't want to

3555
02:54:53,420 --> 02:54:50,489
make this show ever about politics it's

3556
02:54:56,689 --> 02:54:53,430
not but it's about the conspiracy of

3557
02:54:59,689 --> 02:54:56,699
politics and right now when we're

3558
02:55:02,179 --> 02:54:59,699
talking about changes and make America

3559
02:55:04,340 --> 02:55:02,189
first and that is your platform and

3560
02:55:10,099 --> 02:55:04,350
that's what gets you elected and you

3561
02:55:13,880 --> 02:55:10,109
pull this crap think about that think

3562
02:55:18,409 --> 02:55:13,890
about that what is going who who is

3563
02:55:20,449 --> 02:55:18,419
pulling the strings in Washington DC who

3564
02:55:23,630 --> 02:55:20,459
is guiding that when I talk about on

3565
02:55:25,760 --> 02:55:23,640
this show follow the money follow the

3566
02:55:28,010 --> 02:55:25,770
money that you will get to the bottom of

3567
02:55:31,250 --> 02:55:28,020
any great conspiracy and this is a

3568
02:55:33,349 --> 02:55:31,260
conspiracy this should be 100 percent

3569
02:55:35,800 --> 02:55:33,359
against the law this is two or more

3570
02:55:40,250 --> 02:55:35,810
people conspiring to commit a crime and

3571
02:55:43,429 --> 02:55:40,260
to have Saudi Arabia wholly-owned Port

3572
02:55:48,019 --> 02:55:43,439
Arthur in Texas the largest refinery in

3573
02:55:50,929 --> 02:55:48,029
North America not to be owned by us and

3574
02:55:55,099 --> 02:55:50,939
that turn around and have the Saudis

3575
02:55:57,109 --> 02:55:55,109
exclusively sell Shell gasoline in in

3576
02:56:00,380 --> 02:55:57,119
Georgia North Carolina South Carolina

3577
02:56:02,599 --> 02:56:00,390
Virginia Maryland Washington DC the

3578
02:56:08,120 --> 02:56:02,609
eastern half of Texas and the majority

3579
02:56:12,130 --> 02:56:08,130
of Florida is an outrage think about

3580
02:56:20,090 --> 02:56:15,229
unbelievable it's unbelievable that is

3581
02:56:24,199 --> 02:56:20,100
an America first that is America last

3582
02:56:24,469 --> 02:56:24,209
and that is another episode of fade to

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02:56:26,750 --> 02:56:24,479
black

3584
02:56:29,029 --> 02:56:26,760
I'm your host Jimmy Church I want to

3585
02:56:31,370 --> 02:56:29,039
thank Caroline Cory for coming in here

3586
02:56:33,750 --> 02:56:31,380
tonight what an engaging conversation

3587
02:56:38,460 --> 02:56:33,760
the film is called God

3588
02:56:40,469 --> 02:56:38,470
among us gods among us calm go there

3589
02:56:42,779 --> 02:56:40,479
right now look at the trailers she's got

3590
02:56:44,399 --> 02:56:42,789
some film clips there check it out it's

3591
02:56:46,080 --> 02:56:44,409
an extraordinary documentary it's going

3592
02:56:48,179 --> 02:56:46,090
to premiere in the United States had

3593
02:56:50,819 --> 02:56:48,189
contact in the desert in two weeks in

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02:56:53,489 --> 02:56:50,829
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02:56:55,260 --> 02:56:53,499
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3596
02:56:57,569 --> 02:56:55,270
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02:56:58,319 --> 02:56:57,579
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3598
02:57:00,599 --> 02:56:58,329
you Bob

3599
02:57:03,979 --> 02:57:00,609
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3600
02:57:07,830 --> 02:57:03,989
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3601
02:57:10,500 --> 02:57:07,840
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02:57:14,639 --> 02:57:10,510
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02:57:16,920 --> 02:57:14,649
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02:57:19,830 --> 02:57:16,930
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02:57:22,439 --> 02:57:19,840
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02:57:25,019 --> 02:57:22,449
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02:57:27,899 --> 02:57:25,029
in tonight and happy birthday nurse

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02:57:29,819 --> 02:57:27,909
Nancy this broadcast is on the copyright

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02:57:30,899 --> 02:57:29,829
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02:57:34,429 --> 02:57:32,890
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3615
02:57:43,679 --> 02:57:40,390
your host jimmy church

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02:57:46,679 --> 02:57:43,689
follow me on twitter @ JT radio tomorrow

3617
02:57:49,260 --> 02:57:46,689
night continuing our amazing women week

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here on fade to black is Trisha Eastman